WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.110 --> 00:00:08.146 (soft orchestra music) 2 00:00:08.146 --> 00:00:09.795 - [Voiceover] Though my parents lived in New York 3 00:00:09.795 --> 00:00:11.291 for many years, 4 00:00:11.291 --> 00:00:13.958 the European roots to find them. 5 00:00:14.809 --> 00:00:18.294 My Greek mother boasted about the blueness of the Agean 6 00:00:18.294 --> 00:00:21.805 and my father praise the Swiss Alps. 7 00:00:21.805 --> 00:00:22.924 But for me, 8 00:00:22.924 --> 00:00:25.861 none of Europe's shrines could compete with a place 9 00:00:25.861 --> 00:00:29.203 that was only several blocks from my home. 10 00:00:29.203 --> 00:00:33.883 Central Park is where my brother and I found native soil. 11 00:00:33.883 --> 00:00:36.383 (boys mumble) 12 00:00:39.211 --> 00:00:40.572 Years later, 13 00:00:40.572 --> 00:00:44.739 Central Park's history and presence still fascinates me. 14 00:00:50.829 --> 00:00:52.111 A few days ago, 15 00:00:52.111 --> 00:00:54.578 I was sitting on a bench near the boat pond 16 00:00:54.578 --> 00:00:56.319 trying to imagine my surroundings 17 00:00:56.319 --> 00:00:58.421 as they looked a century ago, 18 00:00:58.421 --> 00:01:01.004 without asphalt or car traffic. 19 00:01:04.373 --> 00:01:05.549 Back then, 20 00:01:05.549 --> 00:01:08.274 the park was stocked with wild deer 21 00:01:08.274 --> 00:01:12.339 and it's meadows was home to sheep and horn cattle. 22 00:01:12.339 --> 00:01:14.489 There were gilded birdcages 23 00:01:14.489 --> 00:01:17.989 and children driving goat-drawn carriages. 24 00:01:31.662 --> 00:01:34.151 My thoughts were in this Victorian park, 25 00:01:34.151 --> 00:01:38.318 but a woman with a team of dogs caught my attention. 26 00:01:41.463 --> 00:01:42.821 - Come. 27 00:01:42.821 --> 00:01:43.654 Come. 28 00:01:50.020 --> 00:01:51.553 - [Voiceover] Why would a professional dog walker 29 00:01:51.553 --> 00:01:53.720 carry such a big backpack? 30 00:01:55.697 --> 00:01:57.230 Then I see the backpack is loaded 31 00:01:57.230 --> 00:01:59.397 with laundry and blankets. 32 00:02:05.876 --> 00:02:07.579 Maybe it was her air of well-being 33 00:02:07.579 --> 00:02:09.329 that made me curious. 34 00:02:10.512 --> 00:02:14.813 When I introduced myself, she said her name was Maggie. 35 00:02:14.813 --> 00:02:18.040 Then she calmly said that she had been expecting me. 36 00:02:18.040 --> 00:02:20.477 That she had extrasensory perception 37 00:02:20.477 --> 00:02:24.644 and had been communicating with me for several days. 38 00:02:31.155 --> 00:02:33.822 (people mumble) 39 00:02:34.799 --> 00:02:35.957 The next morning, 40 00:02:35.957 --> 00:02:38.646 I find myself near Bethesda Fountain 41 00:02:38.646 --> 00:02:40.229 looking for Maggie. 42 00:02:56.015 --> 00:02:58.932 - Sometimes I forget I have a face. 43 00:03:06.703 --> 00:03:10.453 I'm so used to doing this without a fountain. 44 00:03:24.005 --> 00:03:26.360 I'm Hera, sister of Zeus. 45 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:28.460 Now (giggles) Jupiter on the same, 46 00:03:28.460 --> 00:03:31.019 now that would be a relief. 47 00:03:31.019 --> 00:03:35.119 But, uh, in Stairway to Heaven there's a little, 48 00:03:35.119 --> 00:03:36.611 ♫ And did you know 49 00:03:36.611 --> 00:03:40.583 ♫ Your stairway lies on the whispering 50 00:03:40.583 --> 00:03:43.967 The whispering wind is the voices, 51 00:03:43.967 --> 00:03:45.467 the radio control. 52 00:03:46.616 --> 00:03:49.366 Jupiter controls the radio waves. 53 00:03:58.556 --> 00:04:02.223 (soft brass ensemble music) 54 00:04:10.776 --> 00:04:13.005 - [Voiceover] Things don't necessarily get clearer to me 55 00:04:13.005 --> 00:04:14.949 the more Maggie explains them, 56 00:04:14.949 --> 00:04:18.258 but I managed to piece this much together. 57 00:04:18.258 --> 00:04:20.906 She claims her father was the Hollywood movie star, 58 00:04:20.906 --> 00:04:21.906 Robert Ryan. 59 00:04:23.013 --> 00:04:25.450 She once had an apartment on the upper west side 60 00:04:25.450 --> 00:04:28.617 with a roommate name Pea Green Palmer. 61 00:04:29.793 --> 00:04:32.077 She mentions a horse named Tangle 62 00:04:32.077 --> 00:04:33.899 and having once worked in Central Park 63 00:04:33.899 --> 00:04:35.649 as a carriage driver. 64 00:04:37.341 --> 00:04:40.841 Her oldest son, Michael, was born in 1969. 65 00:04:42.885 --> 00:04:47.877 The quintuplets, Justin, Elizabeth, two Tracys, and Izador 66 00:04:47.877 --> 00:04:50.044 were born some time later. 67 00:04:51.309 --> 00:04:53.434 When I ask her who her husband was 68 00:04:53.434 --> 00:04:56.447 she says his name is Jupiter. 69 00:04:56.447 --> 00:04:58.864 (jazz music) 70 00:05:37.551 --> 00:05:38.968 - Prince William! 71 00:05:43.156 --> 00:05:46.615 Ah, she wants all of it. (chuckles) 72 00:05:46.615 --> 00:05:48.448 Put a lid on it, Mary. 73 00:05:51.031 --> 00:05:51.864 - [Voiceover] Maggie tells me 74 00:05:51.864 --> 00:05:54.531 that she's from the class of 86. 75 00:05:55.601 --> 00:05:57.404 That's the year she became homeless 76 00:05:57.404 --> 00:06:00.904 and took to the streets with all her dogs. 77 00:06:03.268 --> 00:06:06.018 After a few months on the street, 78 00:06:07.108 --> 00:06:09.900 or maybe after a year and a half or two on the street, 79 00:06:09.900 --> 00:06:12.235 I'd meet these people who had shown up on the street 80 00:06:12.235 --> 00:06:14.063 the same time I had 81 00:06:14.063 --> 00:06:15.813 and I noticed that we 82 00:06:17.901 --> 00:06:20.677 had pretty much evolved to a certain level 83 00:06:20.677 --> 00:06:23.747 whereby we weren't doing soup kitchens anymore 84 00:06:23.747 --> 00:06:26.643 and we pretty much had a network of friends 85 00:06:26.643 --> 00:06:28.169 and support system. 86 00:06:28.169 --> 00:06:30.252 And our clothes came from 87 00:06:31.852 --> 00:06:34.601 reliable upper east side garbage. 88 00:06:34.601 --> 00:06:36.273 (giggles) And, uh, 89 00:06:36.273 --> 00:06:40.440 we had reliable upper east side dumpsters to dive and 90 00:06:43.425 --> 00:06:46.178 we pretty much had ourselves worked into 91 00:06:46.178 --> 00:06:48.979 a fairly comfortable situation. 92 00:06:48.979 --> 00:06:52.821 We weren't beligered and lost and angry anymore. 93 00:06:52.821 --> 00:06:56.738 We pretty much just sort of taking a breath and 94 00:07:00.957 --> 00:07:04.829 gearing up for the next phase, I guess. 95 00:07:04.829 --> 00:07:07.162 (dogs bark) 96 00:07:12.845 --> 00:07:14.491 - [Voiceover] The next time I see Maggie, 97 00:07:14.491 --> 00:07:17.156 she just found another mouth to feed. 98 00:07:17.156 --> 00:07:20.739 A pit bull who she's named Sterling Silver. 99 00:07:21.863 --> 00:07:23.635 I wonder how Maggie supports herself 100 00:07:23.635 --> 00:07:25.052 and all her dogs. 101 00:07:25.944 --> 00:07:28.766 She said that she relies on the kindness of strangers, 102 00:07:28.766 --> 00:07:30.445 but she also mentions friends who live on 103 00:07:30.445 --> 00:07:32.112 the upper east side. 104 00:07:33.067 --> 00:07:35.150 Does Jupiter pay alimony? 105 00:07:37.659 --> 00:07:38.739 In any case, 106 00:07:38.739 --> 00:07:41.424 when Maggie invites me to go to the ASPCA with her 107 00:07:41.424 --> 00:07:43.452 to get a license for Sterling, 108 00:07:43.452 --> 00:07:45.652 I offered to pay for it. 109 00:07:45.652 --> 00:07:46.652 She accepts. 110 00:07:48.406 --> 00:07:49.239 - And we have no, 111 00:07:49.239 --> 00:07:50.437 we have no known vaccinations history. 112 00:07:50.437 --> 00:07:51.270 But you think, to you, 113 00:07:51.270 --> 00:07:54.068 do you notice any complaints other than his skin problem? 114 00:07:54.068 --> 00:07:55.314 He's acting like a normal dog to you? 115 00:07:55.314 --> 00:07:58.681 - [Maggie] Yes, he's very nice. 116 00:07:58.681 --> 00:08:00.465 He's Sterling. 117 00:08:00.465 --> 00:08:01.370 - That's why his name is Sterling? 118 00:08:01.370 --> 00:08:03.139 - [Maggie] Yes sir! 119 00:08:03.139 --> 00:08:05.183 He's so amiable to suggestions, 120 00:08:05.183 --> 00:08:06.850 he's easy to handle. 121 00:08:07.687 --> 00:08:09.258 He's very nice and he likes me. 122 00:08:09.258 --> 00:08:10.902 He prefers me to other people. 123 00:08:10.902 --> 00:08:13.855 - [Veterinarian] He seems like he gets along with dogs. 124 00:08:13.855 --> 00:08:14.688 He's still barking. 125 00:08:14.688 --> 00:08:15.521 - Mmm-hmm. 126 00:08:18.292 --> 00:08:19.459 Oh! He kissed! 127 00:08:20.476 --> 00:08:21.886 What is your name? 128 00:08:21.886 --> 00:08:23.553 - I'm Dr. Crominara. 129 00:08:29.021 --> 00:08:29.918 - [Voiceover] While Maggie was filling out 130 00:08:29.918 --> 00:08:33.094 the application forms at the front desk, 131 00:08:33.094 --> 00:08:35.478 I noticed that she gave her current address as 132 00:08:35.478 --> 00:08:37.061 865 Madison Avenue. 133 00:08:38.574 --> 00:08:41.328 She even specified that she lived on the steps 134 00:08:41.328 --> 00:08:43.161 of Saint James Church. 135 00:09:11.486 --> 00:09:14.866 - [Maggie] Mika Little pups? (clicks tongue) 136 00:09:14.866 --> 00:09:15.699 Forrest? 137 00:09:17.772 --> 00:09:21.939 (clicks tongue) Mika Little pups. 138 00:09:24.062 --> 00:09:25.096 Mika little pup. 139 00:09:25.096 --> 00:09:27.179 (kisses) 140 00:09:29.138 --> 00:09:31.073 I'm listening to the news. 141 00:09:31.073 --> 00:09:33.624 The traffic report is very funny. 142 00:09:33.624 --> 00:09:36.291 (clicks tongue) 143 00:09:39.490 --> 00:09:43.657 Um, Michael Patrick was in the traffic pattern last night. 144 00:09:45.135 --> 00:09:48.444 He just went by and said don't go. 145 00:09:48.444 --> 00:09:50.638 So I'm not gonna go into all the cosmic gizmos 146 00:09:50.638 --> 00:09:52.606 that I'm directing. 147 00:09:52.606 --> 00:09:54.606 Traffic on planet Earth. 148 00:09:59.277 --> 00:10:00.337 - [Voiceover] Maggie keeps telling me 149 00:10:00.337 --> 00:10:03.113 that she spots her children walking in the park 150 00:10:03.113 --> 00:10:06.446 or sitting in the back of a passing car. 151 00:10:07.306 --> 00:10:10.540 But she says she's never permitted to talk to them directly. 152 00:10:10.540 --> 00:10:12.207 Only telepathically. 153 00:10:13.535 --> 00:10:16.496 Maggie also believes that the radio she listens to 154 00:10:16.496 --> 00:10:19.913 transmits personal messages from Jupiter. 155 00:10:21.408 --> 00:10:23.548 It's clear to me that Maggie is preoccupied 156 00:10:23.548 --> 00:10:25.838 by extrasensory perception, 157 00:10:25.838 --> 00:10:28.921 so I asked her to explain it further. 158 00:10:31.427 --> 00:10:33.472 - It's to be in a position of 159 00:10:33.472 --> 00:10:35.713 having a very finely tuned understanding 160 00:10:35.713 --> 00:10:37.327 of other people and what they want 161 00:10:37.327 --> 00:10:41.034 and how they feel they can achieve their goals 162 00:10:41.034 --> 00:10:42.525 relative to your goals 163 00:10:42.525 --> 00:10:45.067 so that we can all just 164 00:10:45.067 --> 00:10:48.570 like move this everlasting peace grid 165 00:10:48.570 --> 00:10:51.433 just down that much closer to the Earth. 166 00:10:51.433 --> 00:10:55.062 It eventually covers the Earth so that there's peace. 167 00:10:55.062 --> 00:10:56.256 It's a grid 168 00:10:56.256 --> 00:10:59.786 but you have to bring it down with your brains. 169 00:10:59.786 --> 00:11:00.928 What did I used to call, 170 00:11:00.928 --> 00:11:02.630 a matrix or a grid. 171 00:11:02.630 --> 00:11:05.665 I think they're similar, aren't they? 172 00:11:05.665 --> 00:11:06.498 Matrix. 173 00:11:07.723 --> 00:11:09.610 She the daughter of 174 00:11:09.610 --> 00:11:10.693 a tricky one. 175 00:11:11.576 --> 00:11:14.826 We're in the shadow of the living room. 176 00:11:18.507 --> 00:11:20.801 - [Voiceover] The shadow of the living room. 177 00:11:20.801 --> 00:11:22.877 What living room? 178 00:11:22.877 --> 00:11:25.353 I'm fascinated by Maggie's language, 179 00:11:25.353 --> 00:11:27.529 but I also feel like I'm in a foreign country 180 00:11:27.529 --> 00:11:29.446 without my phrase book. 181 00:11:30.438 --> 00:11:32.285 The more cryptic her remarks, 182 00:11:32.285 --> 00:11:35.025 the more I strain to decipher them. 183 00:11:35.025 --> 00:11:37.718 I can't see the shadow of the living room. 184 00:11:37.718 --> 00:11:40.722 I don't know where or who Jupiter is. 185 00:11:40.722 --> 00:11:44.081 But I don't think these phrases are arbitrary. 186 00:11:44.081 --> 00:11:48.321 I think Maggie is trying to tell me something. 187 00:11:48.321 --> 00:11:50.738 (jazz music) 188 00:12:06.889 --> 00:12:08.714 It can be complicated to visit someone 189 00:12:08.714 --> 00:12:10.381 who roams 843 acres. 190 00:12:12.659 --> 00:12:14.593 Today I can't find Maggie, 191 00:12:14.593 --> 00:12:16.653 but I'm struck by how things and people 192 00:12:16.653 --> 00:12:20.015 have altered inside Central Park. 193 00:12:20.015 --> 00:12:22.729 The stage is huge and open. 194 00:12:22.729 --> 00:12:26.479 Sometimes the audience becomes the spectacle. 195 00:12:27.347 --> 00:12:30.597 - So, I will burn this flag in protest. 196 00:12:31.497 --> 00:12:32.593 In protest. 197 00:12:32.593 --> 00:12:36.904 Liberty, vitality, egality, and fortune moon. 198 00:12:36.904 --> 00:12:39.665 For everybody or nobody. 199 00:12:39.665 --> 00:12:42.095 Remember the French Revolution. 200 00:12:42.095 --> 00:12:43.762 Off with their head. 201 00:12:44.855 --> 00:12:45.772 Hallelujah. 202 00:12:53.645 --> 00:12:57.395 - [Maggie] Found and repaired a new umbrella. 203 00:12:58.936 --> 00:12:59.802 Wanna see my new umbrella? 204 00:12:59.802 --> 00:13:01.385 - [Voiceover] Yeah. 205 00:13:13.364 --> 00:13:15.531 (giggles) 206 00:13:17.658 --> 00:13:18.491 - Hi guys! 207 00:13:20.411 --> 00:13:23.709 And a bee is buzzing above us. 208 00:13:23.709 --> 00:13:26.667 Busy, busy, busy, busy. (giggles) 209 00:13:26.667 --> 00:13:28.250 She's odd. I's odd. 210 00:13:30.404 --> 00:13:31.492 Come and get it! Come get it! 211 00:13:31.492 --> 00:13:33.618 Forrest, darling! 212 00:13:33.618 --> 00:13:34.451 A rat! 213 00:13:36.700 --> 00:13:38.276 Silver! 214 00:13:38.276 --> 00:13:40.018 Oh, that is wonderful. 215 00:13:40.018 --> 00:13:43.360 Boy, Sterling Silver, that really live us. 216 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:44.943 Completes the look. 217 00:13:47.152 --> 00:13:47.985 Stop it! 218 00:13:49.552 --> 00:13:50.385 No! 219 00:13:54.416 --> 00:13:55.249 Stop it! 220 00:14:01.547 --> 00:14:04.265 Anyway, there's a man in the park who eats these things. 221 00:14:04.265 --> 00:14:06.661 He's been eating rats and pigeons for years. 222 00:14:06.661 --> 00:14:09.328 He lives above the the eighties. 223 00:14:10.349 --> 00:14:12.490 I'm taking this away from dogs. 224 00:14:12.490 --> 00:14:13.323 (dog growls) 225 00:14:13.323 --> 00:14:15.050 (gasps) 226 00:14:15.050 --> 00:14:18.883 Okay, we're putting this in with the trophies. 227 00:14:19.841 --> 00:14:23.008 (rock and roll music) 228 00:14:43.187 --> 00:14:45.235 It's just a little ol' farm. 229 00:14:45.235 --> 00:14:47.902 'Cause it isn't a very big farm. 230 00:14:49.107 --> 00:14:51.357 Kinda looks like Wisconsin, 231 00:14:52.527 --> 00:14:53.952 you know, all these trees. 232 00:14:53.952 --> 00:14:57.119 It happens to be a city down there but 233 00:15:03.538 --> 00:15:07.371 - [Voiceover] Maggie sees things that I don't. 234 00:15:08.650 --> 00:15:12.448 But there's a dark side to this ability of hers. 235 00:15:12.448 --> 00:15:13.704 I learned, for instance, 236 00:15:13.704 --> 00:15:17.083 that she grew up with a family on Long Island. 237 00:15:17.083 --> 00:15:19.326 But she insists that the couple who raised her 238 00:15:19.326 --> 00:15:21.698 aren't her real parents. 239 00:15:21.698 --> 00:15:25.365 She was switched with another baby at birth. 240 00:15:26.249 --> 00:15:27.166 - The truth 241 00:15:28.519 --> 00:15:31.602 of the circumstances around my birth, 242 00:15:32.876 --> 00:15:36.772 after I'd been shifted from my birth parents 243 00:15:36.772 --> 00:15:38.641 to this other set of parents 244 00:15:38.641 --> 00:15:41.848 and these other circumstances, 245 00:15:41.848 --> 00:15:43.015 were to create 246 00:15:45.808 --> 00:15:49.141 the symptoms of Schizophrenia so that I, 247 00:15:50.332 --> 00:15:52.760 my thinking 248 00:15:52.760 --> 00:15:54.898 and my actions 249 00:15:54.898 --> 00:15:56.148 would render me 250 00:15:58.178 --> 00:15:59.928 invalid and therefore 251 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:05.367 not capable of handling anything like an inheritance. 252 00:16:06.886 --> 00:16:07.886 And the, uh, 253 00:16:09.676 --> 00:16:11.552 you know, the matter of hearing voices, 254 00:16:11.552 --> 00:16:13.738 rather than being considered a gift, 255 00:16:13.738 --> 00:16:16.071 would be considered a fault. 256 00:16:19.611 --> 00:16:21.028 I've been framed. 257 00:16:23.190 --> 00:16:24.607 I've been framed! 258 00:16:29.370 --> 00:16:32.203 And then I met this Bobby who, uh, 259 00:16:33.920 --> 00:16:36.920 had been adopted by the Caddy family 260 00:16:38.649 --> 00:16:39.899 during the war. 261 00:16:41.643 --> 00:16:44.560 And the things that happened to her 262 00:16:45.992 --> 00:16:48.028 validated in my own mind 263 00:16:48.028 --> 00:16:50.361 the suspicion that the link. 264 00:16:53.071 --> 00:16:55.821 I have two and a lustrious family 265 00:16:57.634 --> 00:16:58.801 is a real one. 266 00:17:00.684 --> 00:17:01.627 - Banana hates me. 267 00:17:01.627 --> 00:17:03.643 You'se mention, you mention my name, 268 00:17:03.643 --> 00:17:05.649 you show my picture to Joe Banana. 269 00:17:05.649 --> 00:17:07.613 I said Joe Banana, you are dead. 270 00:17:07.613 --> 00:17:09.953 (giggles) That's the truth. 271 00:17:09.953 --> 00:17:10.799 And you ask the preacher, 272 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:13.023 that's exactly what I used to tell Sam Jean Connor. 273 00:17:13.023 --> 00:17:14.080 before he was killed. 274 00:17:14.080 --> 00:17:16.007 I used to be on stage out in Vegas, sonny. 275 00:17:16.007 --> 00:17:17.300 That's the preacher, that's why he hated me. 276 00:17:17.300 --> 00:17:20.292 "You're not fit for a mother." 277 00:17:20.292 --> 00:17:23.504 I was on stage and I had a comedy act, 278 00:17:23.504 --> 00:17:26.356 similar to Richard Pryor's, 279 00:17:26.356 --> 00:17:29.672 and the preacher took it the wrong way. 280 00:17:29.672 --> 00:17:33.144 I was undercover, working as a waitress. 281 00:17:33.144 --> 00:17:35.707 And seeing and telling dirty jokes on stage 282 00:17:35.707 --> 00:17:37.504 so I can see in here what was going on 283 00:17:37.504 --> 00:17:41.108 and know which mafia chiefs spit in what face, 284 00:17:41.108 --> 00:17:44.157 what names, and who got together. 285 00:17:44.157 --> 00:17:45.715 And he ruined the whole thing! 286 00:17:45.715 --> 00:17:48.145 They would come in and drag me off the stage. 287 00:17:48.145 --> 00:17:48.978 I'm not kidding you! 288 00:17:48.978 --> 00:17:50.659 And I don't dance nude 'cause, see, 289 00:17:50.659 --> 00:17:54.047 this happened because of who I really am. 290 00:17:54.047 --> 00:17:56.355 Because I escaped Auschwitz, 291 00:17:56.355 --> 00:17:59.272 I shouldn't have escaped Auschwitz. 292 00:18:02.290 --> 00:18:03.908 - [Voiceover] Sam Jean Conner, 293 00:18:03.908 --> 00:18:07.075 Joe Banana, Auschwitz, that's not all. 294 00:18:08.547 --> 00:18:10.787 Bobby also tells me that before being adopted 295 00:18:10.787 --> 00:18:12.527 by the Kennedy family, 296 00:18:12.527 --> 00:18:14.065 she lived with either her father, 297 00:18:14.065 --> 00:18:16.198 Albert Einstein, in Switzerland, 298 00:18:16.198 --> 00:18:19.503 with her mother, Greta Garbo, in New York. 299 00:18:19.503 --> 00:18:22.503 - [Bobby] That's my hand. That's me. 300 00:18:25.247 --> 00:18:27.193 - [Voiceover] I'm fascinated by these stories, 301 00:18:27.193 --> 00:18:29.571 but troubled as well. 302 00:18:29.571 --> 00:18:30.987 - [Man In Suit] Come on, come on. 303 00:18:30.987 --> 00:18:32.632 Come on. Come on. 304 00:18:32.632 --> 00:18:34.446 - [Voiceover] These are dense plots in which 305 00:18:34.446 --> 00:18:36.944 Maggie and Bobby appear as heroines, 306 00:18:36.944 --> 00:18:39.360 but also as victims. 307 00:18:39.360 --> 00:18:41.232 Since arriving in New York, 308 00:18:41.232 --> 00:18:43.606 Bobby has spent her entire savings 309 00:18:43.606 --> 00:18:47.068 phoning the FBI five to 10 times a day, 310 00:18:47.068 --> 00:18:49.590 asking for her job back. 311 00:18:49.590 --> 00:18:53.340 It's a high price to pay for her convictions. 312 00:18:54.558 --> 00:18:55.949 - Yay! 313 00:18:55.949 --> 00:18:59.832 (baby gibberish) Come down the road daddy. 314 00:18:59.832 --> 00:19:01.367 Come down. 315 00:19:01.367 --> 00:19:03.556 - [Voiceover] Can we stay up here? 316 00:19:03.556 --> 00:19:04.389 - Yeah. 317 00:19:06.218 --> 00:19:08.968 (baby gibberish) 318 00:19:10.211 --> 00:19:11.473 - [Voiceover] I go to the Catskills 319 00:19:11.473 --> 00:19:13.343 for a vacation with my family. 320 00:19:13.343 --> 00:19:15.176 - I'm driving the car. 321 00:19:19.307 --> 00:19:21.725 - [Voiceover] I'm a hundred miles from Central Park, 322 00:19:21.725 --> 00:19:25.365 but Maggie's enigma will not release me. 323 00:19:25.365 --> 00:19:26.737 In our first meeting, 324 00:19:26.737 --> 00:19:29.573 she said she'd been expecting me. 325 00:19:29.573 --> 00:19:33.252 How was I suspected to hear Maggie's riddles? 326 00:19:33.252 --> 00:19:36.344 Why does she believe that Robert Ryan is her father? 327 00:19:36.344 --> 00:19:38.662 And where are her children? 328 00:19:38.662 --> 00:19:40.108 I wonder if it's appropriate for me 329 00:19:40.108 --> 00:19:42.275 to pursue these questions. 330 00:19:43.880 --> 00:19:47.908 Then a coincidence makes me forget my misgivings. 331 00:19:47.908 --> 00:19:49.729 While visiting friends one day, 332 00:19:49.729 --> 00:19:54.313 I admire a carved wooden bench on their front porch. 333 00:19:54.313 --> 00:19:58.856 I'm told that it was a gift from Robert Ryan's daughter. 334 00:19:58.856 --> 00:20:01.292 Did they once know Maggie? 335 00:20:01.292 --> 00:20:03.198 I pressed for more information, 336 00:20:03.198 --> 00:20:07.116 but it was 20 years ago and all pretty vague. 337 00:20:07.116 --> 00:20:10.294 They tell me Robert Ryan used to live in the Dakota, 338 00:20:10.294 --> 00:20:12.966 the legendary building whose Gothic spires 339 00:20:12.966 --> 00:20:15.383 cast shadows on Central Park. 340 00:20:16.482 --> 00:20:19.634 Roman Polanski filmed Rosemary's baby here 341 00:20:19.634 --> 00:20:23.467 and John Lennon was murdered at its door step. 342 00:20:27.187 --> 00:20:30.631 - Nobody suffers over squirrels like these dogs. 343 00:20:30.631 --> 00:20:31.628 One, 344 00:20:31.628 --> 00:20:32.461 Forrest! 345 00:20:33.658 --> 00:20:34.610 Where is that dog? 346 00:20:34.610 --> 00:20:35.996 That's why they're crying! 347 00:20:35.996 --> 00:20:40.585 I'm missing (screams in surprise) 348 00:20:40.585 --> 00:20:42.502 I almost lost a finger. 349 00:20:43.655 --> 00:20:45.498 Okay, we'll leave without Forrest 350 00:20:45.498 --> 00:20:48.415 and hope that he finds a good home. 351 00:20:50.195 --> 00:20:51.028 Forrest? 352 00:20:52.424 --> 00:20:56.007 Forrest McHand Ratty, the king of all dogs. 353 00:20:59.542 --> 00:21:01.106 You're going to be a mommy 354 00:21:01.106 --> 00:21:04.689 and you're running around looking for rats. 355 00:21:05.708 --> 00:21:08.029 And you'll teach those babies. 356 00:21:08.029 --> 00:21:10.023 They're gonna be good ratters too. 357 00:21:10.023 --> 00:21:13.106 They're really gonna be good ratters. 358 00:21:19.075 --> 00:21:22.075 (suspenseful music) 359 00:21:24.588 --> 00:21:26.680 - [Voiceover] I begin to wonder if I romanticized 360 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:28.513 Maggie's outdoor life. 361 00:21:30.784 --> 00:21:32.752 With the cold weather approaching, 362 00:21:32.752 --> 00:21:34.782 how would Maggie keep herself and all her dogs 363 00:21:34.782 --> 00:21:37.324 from freezing to death? 364 00:21:37.324 --> 00:21:39.050 I'm becoming less patient with Maggie. 365 00:21:39.050 --> 00:21:41.716 (clicks tongue) 366 00:21:41.716 --> 00:21:43.959 - This is an official. 367 00:21:43.959 --> 00:21:46.512 I'm a official (chuckles) 368 00:21:46.512 --> 00:21:51.136 in the Vatican Army. (laughs) 369 00:21:51.136 --> 00:21:53.136 I'm General Disturbance. 370 00:21:59.313 --> 00:22:02.980 (crowd whistles and cheers) 371 00:22:06.045 --> 00:22:07.472 - [Voiceover] For the next few weeks, 372 00:22:07.472 --> 00:22:10.023 I try to convince Maggie to leave the park 373 00:22:10.023 --> 00:22:12.399 and find an apartment. 374 00:22:12.399 --> 00:22:14.402 I contact city and private agencies 375 00:22:14.402 --> 00:22:16.663 that work with the homeless. 376 00:22:16.663 --> 00:22:19.213 They already know Maggie. 377 00:22:19.213 --> 00:22:21.045 It seems that nothing will budge Maggie 378 00:22:21.045 --> 00:22:22.837 from her sacred ground 379 00:22:22.837 --> 00:22:25.790 or separate her from her dogs. 380 00:22:25.790 --> 00:22:27.311 When Maggie does move, 381 00:22:27.311 --> 00:22:31.709 it's to a new camp under a bridge in Central Park. 382 00:22:31.709 --> 00:22:34.188 It's here, in late October, 383 00:22:34.188 --> 00:22:36.287 that Nika Little's puppies are born. 384 00:22:36.287 --> 00:22:37.456 - [Maggie] Such a b-day. 385 00:22:37.456 --> 00:22:40.493 (dogs bark loudly) 386 00:22:40.493 --> 00:22:41.326 (dog whines) 387 00:22:41.326 --> 00:22:44.289 - She's trying to hide them. 388 00:22:44.289 --> 00:22:45.987 See? That's why she wanted to dig a hole, 389 00:22:45.987 --> 00:22:47.518 she wants to hide them. 390 00:22:47.518 --> 00:22:48.713 Even from you, Maggie. 391 00:22:48.713 --> 00:22:51.014 You know, as close as she is to you. 392 00:22:51.014 --> 00:22:53.028 This is new, only that's what she's supposed to do, 393 00:22:53.028 --> 00:22:53.861 hide them. 394 00:22:57.971 --> 00:23:00.814 See, it check it. "Is it alright? Is it alive?" 395 00:23:00.814 --> 00:23:02.147 Did she let you? 396 00:23:03.139 --> 00:23:04.056 Is it okay? 397 00:23:05.580 --> 00:23:07.038 - [Maggie] Yes, it's just a mess. 398 00:23:07.038 --> 00:23:07.964 Kicking around here too - [Bobby] Oh! There she goes! 399 00:23:07.964 --> 00:23:09.272 Two. 400 00:23:09.272 --> 00:23:11.283 Alive and kicking but 401 00:23:11.283 --> 00:23:13.431 kicking the afterbirth out. - [Maggie] There's afterbirth? 402 00:23:13.431 --> 00:23:15.181 Well, just wait then. 403 00:23:17.411 --> 00:23:19.744 (dogs bark) 404 00:23:21.713 --> 00:23:22.713 Little girl. 405 00:23:23.705 --> 00:23:26.372 (sings happily) 406 00:23:32.037 --> 00:23:35.204 (machine hums loudly) 407 00:23:55.331 --> 00:23:57.831 (puppies cry) 408 00:24:06.954 --> 00:24:09.624 Popeye here, Herculisa. 409 00:24:09.624 --> 00:24:10.624 Could it be? 410 00:24:15.120 --> 00:24:16.370 That's Seturna. 411 00:24:17.305 --> 00:24:18.555 That's Seturna. 412 00:24:20.662 --> 00:24:23.920 Oh, she's a little beauty too. 413 00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:25.508 And she's the daughter of Boris. 414 00:24:25.508 --> 00:24:26.675 She has little 415 00:24:27.574 --> 00:24:29.157 big, fat duke claws 416 00:24:30.249 --> 00:24:32.617 like Boris. Just like daddy. 417 00:24:32.617 --> 00:24:34.284 Just like her daddy. 418 00:24:41.337 --> 00:24:42.170 Hebe. 419 00:24:48.136 --> 00:24:51.461 She looks a lot like Sterling Silver's markings, 420 00:24:51.461 --> 00:24:53.544 but she has Boris's nose. 421 00:24:56.013 --> 00:24:58.443 Ah! She is so beautiful. 422 00:24:58.443 --> 00:25:01.735 She looks like my daughter, Elizabeth. 423 00:25:01.735 --> 00:25:04.402 You do. You look like Elizabeth. 424 00:25:05.346 --> 00:25:08.679 I hope Elizabeth becomes your new mommy. 425 00:25:11.178 --> 00:25:13.158 Wouldn't that be fun to be with someone 426 00:25:13.158 --> 00:25:14.930 that looks like you? 427 00:25:14.930 --> 00:25:15.847 A Valkyrie. 428 00:25:19.360 --> 00:25:20.961 - [Voiceover] It doesn't entirely surprise me 429 00:25:20.961 --> 00:25:23.676 that the litter is christened after Greek divinities 430 00:25:23.676 --> 00:25:26.759 such as Herculisa, Seturna, and Hebe. 431 00:25:28.122 --> 00:25:31.276 Maggie promptly spins myths around her newborns, 432 00:25:31.276 --> 00:25:35.443 making them puppies, children, and goddesses all at once. 433 00:25:36.594 --> 00:25:39.490 The birth seems to spark Maggie's mind, 434 00:25:39.490 --> 00:25:43.407 but it also brings back phantoms from her past. 435 00:25:44.296 --> 00:25:47.728 - One particular thing about remembering 436 00:25:47.728 --> 00:25:49.856 being kidnapped that always impressed me 437 00:25:49.856 --> 00:25:53.409 and I just figured out this morning what it was. 438 00:25:53.409 --> 00:25:55.153 When this nurse, or whatever she was, 439 00:25:55.153 --> 00:25:57.173 walked into the nursery 440 00:25:57.173 --> 00:26:00.873 and I was astrally projected on the ceiling 441 00:26:00.873 --> 00:26:03.141 having a stomach ache, 442 00:26:03.141 --> 00:26:07.243 the one thing I really noticed was the stitchery 443 00:26:07.243 --> 00:26:10.194 or the stitching of the hem in her uniform 444 00:26:10.194 --> 00:26:12.789 and how the hem had been folded over double, 445 00:26:12.789 --> 00:26:14.712 once and a half 446 00:26:14.712 --> 00:26:16.446 with little teeny, teeny frays 447 00:26:16.446 --> 00:26:19.131 visible through the white fabric. 448 00:26:19.131 --> 00:26:21.107 And it was very starched 449 00:26:21.107 --> 00:26:24.655 and the stitching was very, very precise. 450 00:26:24.655 --> 00:26:26.457 And that was her hem. 451 00:26:26.457 --> 00:26:28.687 And the man who raised me 452 00:26:28.687 --> 00:26:31.270 was the early Greek god Hemera, 453 00:26:32.440 --> 00:26:35.344 the early god of the dawn. 454 00:26:35.344 --> 00:26:36.177 Hem-era. 455 00:26:38.293 --> 00:26:40.548 And yesterday when we were all standing around 456 00:26:40.548 --> 00:26:43.777 in that amphitheater type arrangement 457 00:26:43.777 --> 00:26:45.944 at the back of the tunnel, 458 00:26:48.783 --> 00:26:51.125 a man who looked just like him walked by 459 00:26:51.125 --> 00:26:53.230 and he was smiling at the fact that 460 00:26:53.230 --> 00:26:56.067 so many people were standing around 461 00:26:56.067 --> 00:26:57.451 all at once (giggles) 462 00:26:57.451 --> 00:26:59.784 in this Elizabethan setting. 463 00:27:01.699 --> 00:27:04.699 (somber jazz music) 464 00:27:06.942 --> 00:27:07.775 - [Voiceover] Who is this Hemera 465 00:27:07.775 --> 00:27:11.701 who kidnapped Maggie when she was several days old? 466 00:27:11.701 --> 00:27:15.451 Did he and Jupiter correspond to real people? 467 00:27:18.726 --> 00:27:20.891 Maggie's world reminds me of the Greek myths 468 00:27:20.891 --> 00:27:24.109 my mother used to read to me. 469 00:27:24.109 --> 00:27:27.367 I think of the murky afterworld called Erebus, 470 00:27:27.367 --> 00:27:29.883 where souls take refuge after being separated 471 00:27:29.883 --> 00:27:34.011 from their bodies and their earthly existence. 472 00:27:34.011 --> 00:27:36.851 These trees are fall scenery to me, 473 00:27:36.851 --> 00:27:41.018 but Maggie populates them with spirits and voices. 474 00:27:42.511 --> 00:27:45.844 I'm in Central Park, Maggie's in Erebus. 475 00:27:56.043 --> 00:27:57.793 - Boy that look good. 476 00:27:58.896 --> 00:28:02.729 I mean, y'all getting too used to people food. 477 00:28:07.330 --> 00:28:08.251 - Come on Boris. 478 00:28:08.251 --> 00:28:09.868 - [Bobby] Boris! 479 00:28:09.868 --> 00:28:10.951 - He'll come. 480 00:28:13.724 --> 00:28:16.192 - [Voiceover] It's the onset of the coldest December 481 00:28:16.192 --> 00:28:19.290 in New York City's recorded history. 482 00:28:19.290 --> 00:28:23.262 So cold that on the anniversary of John Lennon's murder, 483 00:28:23.262 --> 00:28:26.717 only a handful attend his memorial. 484 00:28:26.717 --> 00:28:29.212 I invite Maggie to the Lennon vigil, 485 00:28:29.212 --> 00:28:32.949 but she sees no reason to mourn him. 486 00:28:32.949 --> 00:28:36.282 She has more recent news of John Lennon. 487 00:28:37.768 --> 00:28:40.195 - Um, what year was that? 1980? 488 00:28:40.195 --> 00:28:43.028 When he was dead about five years, 489 00:28:44.066 --> 00:28:45.399 on his birthday, 490 00:28:46.990 --> 00:28:49.617 there was an article in some Florida paper about 491 00:28:49.617 --> 00:28:52.423 his having been dead five years 492 00:28:52.423 --> 00:28:56.013 but there was also an article on the back of that page 493 00:28:56.013 --> 00:28:57.846 about somebody who was 494 00:29:00.247 --> 00:29:04.269 doing furniture repair of elegant old Spanish beds 495 00:29:04.269 --> 00:29:07.426 and elegant old works of arts 496 00:29:07.426 --> 00:29:11.166 from the 15th century, woodworking. 497 00:29:11.166 --> 00:29:14.999 And the fellow in the picture was John Lennon. 498 00:29:18.143 --> 00:29:19.332 So in other words, 499 00:29:19.332 --> 00:29:23.195 he went from the dead to the bed, I guess. 500 00:29:23.195 --> 00:29:24.528 Old Spanish bed. 501 00:29:26.377 --> 00:29:27.674 So since my father, 502 00:29:27.674 --> 00:29:29.877 who had lived in that apartment before 503 00:29:29.877 --> 00:29:32.699 John and Yoko lived in that apartment 504 00:29:32.699 --> 00:29:34.349 isn't dead either. 505 00:29:34.349 --> 00:29:36.723 I guess it's a tradition with that apartment 506 00:29:36.723 --> 00:29:40.261 to die Hollywood deaths artificially 507 00:29:40.261 --> 00:29:44.743 and just continue on your life with some other name. 508 00:29:44.743 --> 00:29:45.576 Or names. 509 00:29:47.719 --> 00:29:51.886 This island is Many-hatta, yes? (laughs) 510 00:29:52.981 --> 00:29:54.481 We wear many hats. 511 00:29:59.875 --> 00:30:01.811 - What do you want? 512 00:30:01.811 --> 00:30:03.977 - I'm sorry. I guess I must have the wrong place. 513 00:30:03.977 --> 00:30:07.663 - What, uh, place you're looking for? 514 00:30:07.663 --> 00:30:09.086 - [Army Man] Well I thought it was this apartment. 515 00:30:09.086 --> 00:30:11.353 I was looking for a buddy of mine. 516 00:30:11.353 --> 00:30:12.871 - [Voiceover] This is Robert Ryan, 517 00:30:12.871 --> 00:30:15.707 the man Maggie claims is her real father, 518 00:30:15.707 --> 00:30:19.867 appearing in the Hollywood classic, Crossfire. 519 00:30:19.867 --> 00:30:23.738 I learned that after Robert Ryan's death in 1973, 520 00:30:23.738 --> 00:30:27.219 John Lennon bought his apartment in the Dakota. 521 00:30:27.219 --> 00:30:29.599 Both men had lived above Central Park 522 00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:31.917 and Maggie had not allowed them to leave it, 523 00:30:31.917 --> 00:30:33.417 not even by dying. 524 00:30:34.483 --> 00:30:36.470 Apparently John Lennon and Robert Ryan 525 00:30:36.470 --> 00:30:38.539 now reside in Erebus, 526 00:30:38.539 --> 00:30:41.204 along with Maggie's children, her puppies, 527 00:30:41.204 --> 00:30:42.537 and her deities. 528 00:30:45.760 --> 00:30:48.181 But if Robert Ryan was Maggie's father, 529 00:30:48.181 --> 00:30:49.641 then who was Hemera, 530 00:30:49.641 --> 00:30:52.066 the man who raised her and who lurked near the site 531 00:30:52.066 --> 00:30:54.399 where the puppies were born? 532 00:31:06.302 --> 00:31:10.868 Fortunately, Maggie does have less elusive contacts. 533 00:31:10.868 --> 00:31:12.252 After hearing for weeks about 534 00:31:12.252 --> 00:31:15.575 Maggie's upper east side friend, Catina, 535 00:31:15.575 --> 00:31:17.421 I finally meet her. 536 00:31:17.421 --> 00:31:20.088 - Anyway, I'm so happy to see you! (laughs) 537 00:31:20.088 --> 00:31:22.624 Very happy to see you! God! 538 00:31:22.624 --> 00:31:24.151 We were all gonna leave notes for each other 539 00:31:24.151 --> 00:31:26.151 behind phones and stuff. 540 00:31:27.602 --> 00:31:28.735 I thought you'd be, um, 541 00:31:28.735 --> 00:31:29.693 - I'm late. 542 00:31:29.693 --> 00:31:30.697 I'm late because I was on the phone this morning. 543 00:31:30.697 --> 00:31:32.549 I called those two people to make sure. 544 00:31:32.549 --> 00:31:33.724 I went up to the vet 545 00:31:33.724 --> 00:31:34.752 and the vet said yes, 546 00:31:34.752 --> 00:31:36.037 the dogs could go into a home. 547 00:31:36.037 --> 00:31:37.093 Even though there's another dog, 548 00:31:37.093 --> 00:31:38.691 they're not contagious. 549 00:31:38.691 --> 00:31:39.578 I mean, they're not contagious, 550 00:31:39.578 --> 00:31:42.302 once they're on antibiotics, they're okay. 551 00:31:42.302 --> 00:31:43.554 - [Maggie] They need a little care, that's all. 552 00:31:43.554 --> 00:31:44.387 - They're fine 553 00:31:44.387 --> 00:31:45.330 - [Maggie] They caught it real fast. 554 00:31:45.330 --> 00:31:46.482 - Yeah, I know. 555 00:31:46.482 --> 00:31:48.009 Yeah, 'cause of the weather. 556 00:31:48.009 --> 00:31:50.257 So Lucy's giving them the antibiotic. 557 00:31:50.257 --> 00:31:51.655 - [Voiceover] A few days ago, 558 00:31:51.655 --> 00:31:53.619 when the puppies were sick, 559 00:31:53.619 --> 00:31:55.461 Maggie permitted Catina to take them 560 00:31:55.461 --> 00:31:59.309 to a local animal clinic for adoption. 561 00:31:59.309 --> 00:32:03.210 Now Catina wants Maggie to get Mika Little spayed. 562 00:32:03.210 --> 00:32:05.286 - She says you got to do that. 563 00:32:05.286 --> 00:32:07.258 - [Maggie] She's been talking about it all morning. 564 00:32:07.258 --> 00:32:08.091 - Who? 565 00:32:08.091 --> 00:32:08.924 - [Maggie] Mika Little. - She, okay. 566 00:32:08.924 --> 00:32:09.757 Well I'm calling her today. 567 00:32:09.757 --> 00:32:11.731 I didn't have a chance to do it last night. 568 00:32:11.731 --> 00:32:14.369 Had to go watch my husband perform Richard III last night. 569 00:32:14.369 --> 00:32:15.930 - [Maggie] Oh yeah? Was that an opening? 570 00:32:15.930 --> 00:32:17.547 - No, no. It's just a performance. 571 00:32:17.547 --> 00:32:19.475 One of the performances. I haven't seen it yet. 572 00:32:19.475 --> 00:32:21.395 - [Maggie] Oh yeah? - Turn over the riverside. 573 00:32:21.395 --> 00:32:23.438 - [Voiceover] Winter is becoming so severe 574 00:32:23.438 --> 00:32:25.690 that Maggie is forced to move into an abandoned 575 00:32:25.690 --> 00:32:28.507 workman's shed in the park. 576 00:32:28.507 --> 00:32:32.148 She calls her new home Sugar Shack. 577 00:32:32.148 --> 00:32:35.196 Having a home makes it easier to receive things 578 00:32:35.196 --> 00:32:37.408 and I'm surprised by the sudden accumulation 579 00:32:37.408 --> 00:32:39.615 of Maggie's household. 580 00:32:39.615 --> 00:32:43.678 - This is Jill St John's little jacket. 581 00:32:43.678 --> 00:32:45.538 She came by and blessed us with 582 00:32:45.538 --> 00:32:48.621 all the little extras that we needed. 583 00:32:50.148 --> 00:32:51.163 Oh, goody goody. 584 00:32:51.163 --> 00:32:52.561 - [Man] Oh my God. Wait a minute. 585 00:32:52.561 --> 00:32:53.728 It got a hole. 586 00:32:54.573 --> 00:32:56.002 Oh sheesh. 587 00:32:56.002 --> 00:32:56.835 - So what? 588 00:32:58.058 --> 00:32:59.968 How long have you been homeless? (giggle) 589 00:32:59.968 --> 00:33:00.801 - Yeah, but I mean you know, 590 00:33:00.801 --> 00:33:05.639 I didn't want to give you nothing raggedly, lady. 591 00:33:05.639 --> 00:33:08.531 - This is all a fantasy set, you know. 592 00:33:08.531 --> 00:33:10.660 There's a pool right over there where the dogs are. 593 00:33:10.660 --> 00:33:12.936 You dig a pool and the horses come down the hill 594 00:33:12.936 --> 00:33:13.897 and go into the pool 595 00:33:13.897 --> 00:33:16.193 and have their arthritis treated. 596 00:33:16.193 --> 00:33:17.509 - [Man] Alright, doggies. Let's go. 597 00:33:17.509 --> 00:33:18.342 Lay down. 598 00:33:19.339 --> 00:33:22.644 You got two seconds to lay down. 599 00:33:22.644 --> 00:33:24.497 - [Voiceover] Maggie might fantasize Sugar Shack 600 00:33:24.497 --> 00:33:26.727 as an outdoor animal hospital, 601 00:33:26.727 --> 00:33:30.894 but to me it's a frozen wastefill in Central Park. 602 00:33:31.917 --> 00:33:33.333 Catina visits often, 603 00:33:33.333 --> 00:33:36.666 bringing Maggie food and other supplies. 604 00:33:38.909 --> 00:33:41.973 One day, Catina arrives with Joan Coldpepper, 605 00:33:41.973 --> 00:33:46.224 a psychic soul reader from Gatlinburg, Tennessee. 606 00:33:46.224 --> 00:33:47.569 In Joan's view, 607 00:33:47.569 --> 00:33:52.074 Maggie might be the victim of negative spirit entities. 608 00:33:52.074 --> 00:33:54.458 Joan wants to contact the aggressors 609 00:33:54.458 --> 00:33:55.745 and, if possible, 610 00:33:55.745 --> 00:33:57.828 ask them a few questions. 611 00:33:59.966 --> 00:34:02.777 One evening, Joan, Maggie, 612 00:34:02.777 --> 00:34:04.748 and the spirit entities are all invited 613 00:34:04.748 --> 00:34:08.044 to Catina's upper east side apartment. 614 00:34:08.044 --> 00:34:10.044 Joan goes into frequency 615 00:34:11.141 --> 00:34:14.391 - In six of your previous incarnations, 616 00:34:17.091 --> 00:34:19.008 in the awakening state, 617 00:34:21.992 --> 00:34:23.862 the totality of who and what you are, 618 00:34:23.862 --> 00:34:27.197 which is fifth dimensional in nature, 619 00:34:27.197 --> 00:34:29.011 this awakening took place 620 00:34:29.011 --> 00:34:31.928 at a very young and very early age. 621 00:34:33.462 --> 00:34:37.629 And as this awakening vibration began to take place, 622 00:34:38.602 --> 00:34:42.897 you literally would see pictures and flashes 623 00:34:42.897 --> 00:34:44.480 and hear voices and 624 00:34:46.496 --> 00:34:48.079 ideas and concepts. 625 00:34:49.368 --> 00:34:53.609 This traumatized you in all five of these lifetimes. 626 00:34:53.609 --> 00:34:58.592 If you, at the fourth dimensional facade soul level, 627 00:34:58.592 --> 00:35:02.161 you became very traumatized by this 628 00:35:02.161 --> 00:35:04.578 and were placed in a position 629 00:35:05.511 --> 00:35:08.178 of the family members around you 630 00:35:09.338 --> 00:35:13.056 of believing that there was something 631 00:35:13.056 --> 00:35:15.139 very very wrong with you. 632 00:35:20.696 --> 00:35:21.771 - [Voiceover] Whatever the relevance of the 633 00:35:21.771 --> 00:35:24.724 fourth dimensional facade soul level, 634 00:35:24.724 --> 00:35:28.941 the session with Joan seems to provoke memories in Maggie. 635 00:35:28.941 --> 00:35:30.966 I learn more about Hemera, 636 00:35:30.966 --> 00:35:35.133 the man who would allegedly kidnap and raised her. 637 00:35:36.917 --> 00:35:40.224 His wife, Maggie explains, is Eris, 638 00:35:40.224 --> 00:35:42.641 the Greek goddess of discord. 639 00:35:43.835 --> 00:35:46.920 Maggie and Eris are not friends. 640 00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:49.424 - It was just a matter of 641 00:35:49.424 --> 00:35:53.091 the goddess Eris being jealous to the death. 642 00:35:54.681 --> 00:35:56.181 Jealousy is a poo. 643 00:35:58.739 --> 00:36:00.229 There's no room for jealousy. - [Voiceover] But did she 644 00:36:00.229 --> 00:36:02.972 beat you? Did she neglect you? 645 00:36:02.972 --> 00:36:04.074 Did she? 646 00:36:04.074 --> 00:36:07.311 - Nope. She played by the rules, she did everything right. 647 00:36:07.311 --> 00:36:10.636 Except that, by the time I hit puberty, 648 00:36:10.636 --> 00:36:12.536 she was hitting menopause 649 00:36:12.536 --> 00:36:15.203 and boy did she lay it on thick. 650 00:36:16.327 --> 00:36:18.744 She let it be known that she, 651 00:36:19.828 --> 00:36:23.245 underneath all the smiling, she hated me. 652 00:36:25.730 --> 00:36:27.581 So, you know, 653 00:36:27.581 --> 00:36:30.537 I had wanted to be a loving daughter 654 00:36:30.537 --> 00:36:33.047 and by the time I was 14, 655 00:36:33.047 --> 00:36:35.675 which is when Tom Cogen revealed 656 00:36:35.675 --> 00:36:38.557 that my mother was Maureen O'Sullivan, 657 00:36:38.557 --> 00:36:41.765 in a moment when he, kissing me on the cheek, 658 00:36:41.765 --> 00:36:45.213 said "You're getting to look more like your 659 00:36:45.213 --> 00:36:46.583 "mother every day." 660 00:36:46.583 --> 00:36:49.251 And Mrs. Cogen walked through the hall and said 661 00:36:49.251 --> 00:36:51.362 "Oh, she doesn't look like me at all". 662 00:36:51.362 --> 00:36:54.865 And he said "No, she looks like Maureen O'Sullivan". 663 00:36:54.865 --> 00:36:58.378 And Mrs. Cogen went "Woah" (giggles) 664 00:36:58.378 --> 00:37:00.310 and walked into the kitchen. 665 00:37:00.310 --> 00:37:02.400 We had a very small hall, by the way. 666 00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:04.983 All this didn't take much time. 667 00:37:07.713 --> 00:37:11.060 - [Voiceover] After knowing me for six and a half months, 668 00:37:11.060 --> 00:37:14.799 Maggie finally reveals her family name. 669 00:37:14.799 --> 00:37:17.992 Hemera and Eris are Mr. and Mrs. Cogen 670 00:37:17.992 --> 00:37:19.751 of New Hyde Park, New York. 671 00:37:19.751 --> 00:37:22.092 - Oh look at all those other dogs. I wonder if, 672 00:37:22.092 --> 00:37:24.358 (gasps) they've discovered the other dogs. 673 00:37:24.358 --> 00:37:26.691 (dog barks) 674 00:37:27.720 --> 00:37:29.022 - [Voiceover] At Sugar Shack, 675 00:37:29.022 --> 00:37:32.756 Maggie repeats an address to me several times. 676 00:37:32.756 --> 00:37:36.525 It must be the Cogen's retirement home. 677 00:37:36.525 --> 00:37:40.692 I'm convinced that Maggie's asking me to contact them. 678 00:37:41.570 --> 00:37:42.960 When I call, 679 00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:46.487 the woman who answers says she's Maggie's mother. 680 00:37:46.487 --> 00:37:49.488 She hasn't seen Maggie in more than four years 681 00:37:49.488 --> 00:37:53.100 and is surprised to learn that Maggie's homeless. 682 00:37:53.100 --> 00:37:56.428 After unsuccessful attempts to get her daughter committed, 683 00:37:56.428 --> 00:37:59.788 Mrs. Cogen says she's given up. 684 00:37:59.788 --> 00:38:02.328 Yet she adds that Maggie can come home 685 00:38:02.328 --> 00:38:04.562 anytime she wants to. 686 00:38:04.562 --> 00:38:07.229 (bells chiming) 687 00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:13.302 I spend the family Christmas in California. 688 00:38:14.149 --> 00:38:16.982 My son, Peter, takes center stage. 689 00:38:29.018 --> 00:38:30.871 When I returned to New York, 690 00:38:30.871 --> 00:38:33.861 I'm surprised to learn that a number of city agencies 691 00:38:33.861 --> 00:38:37.361 had finally intervened in Maggie's plight. 692 00:38:42.035 --> 00:38:43.668 A coalition force, 693 00:38:43.668 --> 00:38:45.475 drawn from the parks department, 694 00:38:45.475 --> 00:38:48.767 the sanitation department, the ASPCA, 695 00:38:48.767 --> 00:38:50.512 and the police department 696 00:38:50.512 --> 00:38:52.595 knocked down Sugar Shack. 697 00:38:54.524 --> 00:38:57.958 Catina was there when it happened. 698 00:38:57.958 --> 00:38:59.638 - That shack was home. 699 00:38:59.638 --> 00:39:01.530 And to have someone come in and destroy it 700 00:39:01.530 --> 00:39:03.246 in front of your eyes. 701 00:39:03.246 --> 00:39:07.079 This is an extraordinary primal experience of, 702 00:39:09.105 --> 00:39:10.737 just of, really. 703 00:39:10.737 --> 00:39:11.570 I mean that your home. 704 00:39:11.570 --> 00:39:12.941 It'll be somebody coming in and 705 00:39:12.941 --> 00:39:14.017 setting your house on fire, 706 00:39:14.017 --> 00:39:15.699 just evicting you. 707 00:39:15.699 --> 00:39:17.740 I mean it's an eviction and it's your home 708 00:39:17.740 --> 00:39:19.250 whether it's a shack in Central Park 709 00:39:19.250 --> 00:39:20.847 or an apartment on Fifth Avenue. 710 00:39:20.847 --> 00:39:22.647 It's still home and she had created, 711 00:39:22.647 --> 00:39:24.127 she had made it into her home 712 00:39:24.127 --> 00:39:25.929 and they just came with axes, 713 00:39:25.929 --> 00:39:28.691 big axes and were chopping it down. 714 00:39:28.691 --> 00:39:30.802 And she dealt with it brilliantly. 715 00:39:30.802 --> 00:39:34.219 She dealt with it brilliantly, I thought. 716 00:39:36.999 --> 00:39:40.582 - [Voiceover] Maggie is exiled from Erebus. 717 00:39:45.291 --> 00:39:47.125 She's gone to Long Island City, 718 00:39:47.125 --> 00:39:49.766 just across the East River from Manhattan, 719 00:39:49.766 --> 00:39:53.183 with friends that found her an apartment. 720 00:39:56.681 --> 00:39:59.963 Now installed at Ninth Street and 35th Avenue, 721 00:39:59.963 --> 00:40:02.777 Maggie is able to discuss her recent eviction 722 00:40:02.777 --> 00:40:04.298 with humor. 723 00:40:04.298 --> 00:40:06.965 - Actually what happened is, uh, 724 00:40:08.074 --> 00:40:11.050 the police descended upon us with the ASPCA 725 00:40:11.050 --> 00:40:15.154 and somebody else, I guess the park's enforcement patrol. 726 00:40:15.154 --> 00:40:19.321 And (laughs) the Department of Sanitation 727 00:40:20.289 --> 00:40:23.779 and several sledge hammers (laughs) 728 00:40:23.779 --> 00:40:25.612 and a few garbage men. 729 00:40:26.528 --> 00:40:29.969 And there was that "Beep, beep, beep", you know, 730 00:40:29.969 --> 00:40:33.346 that sound from the garbage truck when it's backing up? 731 00:40:33.346 --> 00:40:34.311 - [Voiceover] Yeah. 732 00:40:34.311 --> 00:40:36.151 - You've heard that they, - [Voiceover] And they just? 733 00:40:36.151 --> 00:40:38.234 - And they, the man said, 734 00:40:40.951 --> 00:40:43.118 (rabbles) 735 00:40:49.641 --> 00:40:51.235 - 'Cause natural gas doesn't have any odor 736 00:40:51.235 --> 00:40:52.480 until we add it to it, 737 00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:54.140 so that's why they do that, so you will smell it. 738 00:40:54.140 --> 00:40:55.169 - So you'll wake up? 739 00:40:55.169 --> 00:40:57.123 - Yep! Yeah, hopefully. (chuckles) 740 00:40:57.123 --> 00:40:59.462 Okay, the super's calling the landlord now, 741 00:40:59.462 --> 00:41:00.594 so he's gonna take care of it 742 00:41:00.594 --> 00:41:02.422 and when it's done, we'll be back. 743 00:41:02.422 --> 00:41:03.915 - [Maggie] Okay. Thank you. - Okay? Good luck. 744 00:41:03.915 --> 00:41:06.035 Bye bye. - [Maggie] Bye bye. 745 00:41:06.035 --> 00:41:09.169 (dogs wimper) 746 00:41:09.169 --> 00:41:10.903 - [Voiceover] I meant to ask Maggie about something 747 00:41:10.903 --> 00:41:14.042 Mrs. Cogen had proudly told me. 748 00:41:14.042 --> 00:41:15.931 That Maggie had achieved success 749 00:41:15.931 --> 00:41:17.871 as one of the first women carriage drivers 750 00:41:17.871 --> 00:41:19.204 in Central Park. 751 00:41:20.257 --> 00:41:22.360 Maggie had even been interviewed by Hugh Downs 752 00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:25.027 on the Today Show in the 1960's. 753 00:41:26.603 --> 00:41:27.926 But I postponed telling Maggie 754 00:41:27.926 --> 00:41:30.640 about my conversation with Mrs. Cogen 755 00:41:30.640 --> 00:41:34.423 because she seems preoccupied by the apartment 756 00:41:34.423 --> 00:41:37.434 and busy introducing herself to her new neighbors. 757 00:41:37.434 --> 00:41:39.792 - [Maggie] This Jason? 758 00:41:39.792 --> 00:41:42.596 - That one's cuter. This cute. 759 00:41:42.596 --> 00:41:44.076 - [Maggie] She's a chihuahua. 760 00:41:44.076 --> 00:41:45.624 Are you Jason's sister? 761 00:41:45.624 --> 00:41:46.457 - [Jason] No. 762 00:41:46.457 --> 00:41:47.290 - [Maggie] No, you're not related? 763 00:41:47.290 --> 00:41:50.162 (kids mutter) 764 00:41:50.162 --> 00:41:51.454 You're certainly nice children, 765 00:41:51.454 --> 00:41:52.740 it was nice talking to you. 766 00:41:52.740 --> 00:41:55.115 - [Boy] Your dog is cold. 767 00:41:55.115 --> 00:41:57.239 - [Maggie] What dog? 768 00:41:57.239 --> 00:41:59.739 What dog? I don't see any dog. 769 00:42:03.053 --> 00:42:04.148 - [Voiceover] I search everywhere 770 00:42:04.148 --> 00:42:06.611 for Maggie's appearance on the Today Show, 771 00:42:06.611 --> 00:42:09.194 which aired on June 27th, 1968. 772 00:42:11.027 --> 00:42:13.461 I called television stations and libraries 773 00:42:13.461 --> 00:42:15.787 all over the country. 774 00:42:15.787 --> 00:42:19.069 Apparently, the segment was destroyed. 775 00:42:19.069 --> 00:42:20.579 But when I looked in the national archives 776 00:42:20.579 --> 00:42:22.962 in Washington D.C., 777 00:42:22.962 --> 00:42:24.670 I have a surprise. 778 00:42:24.670 --> 00:42:28.253 (cheerful orchestra music) 779 00:42:34.266 --> 00:42:35.099 - [Voiceover] In New York, 780 00:42:35.099 --> 00:42:37.312 22 year old Maggie Cogen starts her work day 781 00:42:37.312 --> 00:42:39.690 by harnessing her horse, Batman. 782 00:42:39.690 --> 00:42:42.760 She is one of four female horse and carriage drivers 783 00:42:42.760 --> 00:42:44.678 who take passengers for sightseeing trips 784 00:42:44.678 --> 00:42:48.511 in and around Manhattan's famous Central Park. 785 00:42:52.481 --> 00:42:54.123 Maggie's passengers will pay anywhere 786 00:42:54.123 --> 00:42:56.407 from five to seven dollars for an average trip, 787 00:42:56.407 --> 00:42:58.156 depending on length of time. 788 00:42:58.156 --> 00:42:59.582 A carriage ride in New York 789 00:42:59.582 --> 00:43:02.999 is like a gondola ride in Venice, a must. 790 00:43:05.555 --> 00:43:08.179 Some drivers earn up to two thousand dollars a year. 791 00:43:08.179 --> 00:43:09.328 Maggie is careful to point out 792 00:43:09.328 --> 00:43:11.330 all important statues, buildings, 793 00:43:11.330 --> 00:43:14.330 and other landmarks during the ride. 794 00:43:19.081 --> 00:43:21.147 Maggie is never upset by barking dogs, 795 00:43:21.147 --> 00:43:24.416 angry motorist, or teasing youngsters. 796 00:43:24.416 --> 00:43:25.430 Once around the park, Maggie, 797 00:43:25.430 --> 00:43:26.916 and don't spare the horse. 798 00:43:26.916 --> 00:43:28.710 You're one woman who can't be called 799 00:43:28.710 --> 00:43:30.210 a backseat driver. 800 00:43:33.584 --> 00:43:36.084 (eerie music) 801 00:43:39.715 --> 00:43:41.009 - [Voiceover] How did Maggie go from 802 00:43:41.009 --> 00:43:43.545 circling Central Park in a carriage 803 00:43:43.545 --> 00:43:46.128 to living there 20 years later? 804 00:43:51.336 --> 00:43:54.337 As I struggle to piece together Maggie's past, 805 00:43:54.337 --> 00:43:56.966 she continues to straighten out the details 806 00:43:56.966 --> 00:43:58.383 of indoor living. 807 00:44:09.621 --> 00:44:10.871 - Uh-oh. Uh-oh! 808 00:44:12.345 --> 00:44:13.928 Uh-oh, little dogs! 809 00:44:16.715 --> 00:44:18.011 Little dogs. 810 00:44:18.011 --> 00:44:20.428 (dog growls) 811 00:44:22.186 --> 00:44:23.961 - [Voiceover] The apartment is further evidence 812 00:44:23.961 --> 00:44:28.367 of Maggie's knack for attracting generosity. 813 00:44:28.367 --> 00:44:30.095 I learned that friends of Maggie 814 00:44:30.095 --> 00:44:32.383 are sharing her rent with a federal aid program 815 00:44:32.383 --> 00:44:33.300 called SSI. 816 00:44:35.055 --> 00:44:37.891 But one formality remains. 817 00:44:37.891 --> 00:44:40.091 To qualify for the government money, 818 00:44:40.091 --> 00:44:42.727 Maggie has to persuade a shrink in Manhattan 819 00:44:42.727 --> 00:44:46.209 the very things she herself doesn't believe. 820 00:44:46.209 --> 00:44:49.314 That her voices are hallucinations. 821 00:44:49.314 --> 00:44:53.044 Will she concede psychiatric disability? 822 00:44:53.044 --> 00:44:56.461 I'm not allowed into the shrink's office. 823 00:44:58.603 --> 00:45:01.574 - He asked if I ever been in a psychiatric hospital 824 00:45:01.574 --> 00:45:04.074 and I named Hillside Hospital. 825 00:45:05.422 --> 00:45:09.089 He asked the dates, so I gave him the dates. 826 00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:14.768 And he asked me why I had been put there 827 00:45:14.768 --> 00:45:19.142 and I told him "Because people wanted me to go there!" 828 00:45:19.142 --> 00:45:21.764 I'm such an obliging character. 829 00:45:21.764 --> 00:45:23.975 Then he asked if I had heard any voices, 830 00:45:23.975 --> 00:45:25.024 I said yes. 831 00:45:25.024 --> 00:45:26.112 "What were they like?" 832 00:45:26.112 --> 00:45:27.775 And I didn't know quite what to say 833 00:45:27.775 --> 00:45:29.448 because they're romantic voices 834 00:45:29.448 --> 00:45:31.150 and it's a conversation I've been having 835 00:45:31.150 --> 00:45:33.317 for 20 years with someone. 836 00:45:35.558 --> 00:45:36.891 And it was over. 837 00:45:38.780 --> 00:45:40.030 Just like that. 838 00:45:42.126 --> 00:45:44.969 And he wasn't interested in 839 00:45:44.969 --> 00:45:47.009 anything other than the questions he asked, 840 00:45:47.009 --> 00:45:49.395 which he asks everyone, I guess. 841 00:45:49.395 --> 00:45:50.332 I don't think there was any difference 842 00:45:50.332 --> 00:45:51.795 in the questions he asked me 843 00:45:51.795 --> 00:45:55.087 from the questions he asked 15 or 20 other people 844 00:45:55.087 --> 00:45:58.801 before lunch. (giggles) 845 00:45:58.801 --> 00:46:00.384 And 30 or 40 after. 846 00:46:04.243 --> 00:46:05.076 - Stretch. 847 00:46:05.076 --> 00:46:07.647 You let go of the buttocks. Stretch! 848 00:46:07.647 --> 00:46:09.397 And bend from the leg 849 00:46:10.700 --> 00:46:11.533 to your feet. 850 00:46:11.533 --> 00:46:13.707 Stretch your arms in back of your head. 851 00:46:13.707 --> 00:46:16.174 In back of your head. 852 00:46:16.174 --> 00:46:17.841 There and slide down 853 00:46:18.735 --> 00:46:21.296 till you're flat on your back. 854 00:46:21.296 --> 00:46:24.355 Keep the legs, keep the legs down. 855 00:46:24.355 --> 00:46:26.125 Alright, and open up. 856 00:46:26.125 --> 00:46:27.737 Stretch, stretch. 857 00:46:27.737 --> 00:46:30.006 Don't hold your toes. 858 00:46:30.006 --> 00:46:34.265 (counts in foreign language) 859 00:46:34.265 --> 00:46:35.098 Head up! 860 00:46:35.098 --> 00:46:36.450 - [Voiceover] I'm continually surprised 861 00:46:36.450 --> 00:46:40.417 by the extent of Maggie's social network. 862 00:46:40.417 --> 00:46:43.818 Ednisval, whom she also met in Central Park, 863 00:46:43.818 --> 00:46:47.985 has enrolled Maggie in her Times Square gymnastic workshop. 864 00:46:58.750 --> 00:47:01.433 - [Maggie] The tension of sleeping in a 865 00:47:01.433 --> 00:47:03.166 dangerous environment 866 00:47:03.166 --> 00:47:06.249 had me sleeping in such positions and 867 00:47:07.270 --> 00:47:09.630 with such tension that 868 00:47:09.630 --> 00:47:11.172 I knocked my posture way off. 869 00:47:11.172 --> 00:47:13.924 And also carrying a pack, 870 00:47:13.924 --> 00:47:15.342 which wasn't always weighted right 871 00:47:15.342 --> 00:47:17.759 and it was always overloaded, 872 00:47:19.611 --> 00:47:22.194 threw my balance off. 873 00:47:24.192 --> 00:47:26.200 - [Ednisval] And open. 874 00:47:26.200 --> 00:47:28.753 - This Olympic workout 875 00:47:28.753 --> 00:47:30.909 throws everything back in line. 876 00:47:30.909 --> 00:47:32.076 And while it's 877 00:47:34.583 --> 00:47:36.474 getting me back in shape, 878 00:47:36.474 --> 00:47:39.474 back in getting my posture worked on 879 00:47:40.689 --> 00:47:42.726 so that it's more like it should be 880 00:47:42.726 --> 00:47:44.678 rather than this twisted thing I had, 881 00:47:44.678 --> 00:47:46.672 I was all twisted. 882 00:47:46.672 --> 00:47:50.339 My sciatic nerve became jarred or something. 883 00:47:52.361 --> 00:47:53.797 I can't figure out what happened, 884 00:47:53.797 --> 00:47:55.333 but boy, hell on Earth. 885 00:47:55.333 --> 00:47:57.916 There's this thick band of fire 886 00:47:58.947 --> 00:47:59.947 down my leg. 887 00:48:01.964 --> 00:48:04.964 (dog plays noisily) 888 00:48:09.241 --> 00:48:12.343 - [Voiceover] Maggie has moved from 843 acres 889 00:48:12.343 --> 00:48:14.010 to four small rooms. 890 00:48:15.033 --> 00:48:16.691 To receive SSI, 891 00:48:16.691 --> 00:48:20.858 she's agreed to leave Eris, Hemera, and Jupiter behind. 892 00:48:22.356 --> 00:48:24.078 Now to please her landlady, 893 00:48:24.078 --> 00:48:26.536 Maggie must make her family even smaller. 894 00:48:26.536 --> 00:48:31.214 - And you're gonna wow 'em with your long black nails. 895 00:48:31.214 --> 00:48:33.714 "I'm gonna be lonely." I know. 896 00:48:34.642 --> 00:48:36.601 - It's gonna be fine, yes. 897 00:48:36.601 --> 00:48:37.934 It's gonna be fine, yeah. 898 00:48:37.934 --> 00:48:39.040 - [Maggie] Boy, he's a happy one. 899 00:48:39.040 --> 00:48:40.561 - It's gonna be fun, yeah. 900 00:48:40.561 --> 00:48:43.900 - [Maggie] He behaved himself into the best situation! 901 00:48:43.900 --> 00:48:45.733 - It's gonna be great. 902 00:48:46.646 --> 00:48:50.275 - E-yo! Buster, get that off of me! 903 00:48:50.275 --> 00:48:51.108 - Yo! 904 00:48:52.262 --> 00:48:54.526 - Will you get this thing off of me? 905 00:48:54.526 --> 00:48:57.098 - [Catina] (laughs) She's not gonna be an actress, 906 00:48:57.098 --> 00:48:57.931 God knows. 907 00:48:57.931 --> 00:48:58.764 - Jesus! 908 00:48:59.697 --> 00:49:00.823 - [Catina] Audrey, listen at, 909 00:49:00.823 --> 00:49:02.597 Audrey, did you hear what Maggie said? 910 00:49:02.597 --> 00:49:03.991 - Opertune is not mine. 911 00:49:03.991 --> 00:49:04.949 - [Catina] He is. 912 00:49:04.949 --> 00:49:05.782 - You sure? 913 00:49:05.782 --> 00:49:09.340 - [Catina] Yes! That's the surprise! 914 00:49:09.340 --> 00:49:10.891 Audrey, you happy about this? 915 00:49:10.891 --> 00:49:11.772 - [Audrey] Yes! 916 00:49:11.772 --> 00:49:12.605 - Are you really happy? 917 00:49:12.605 --> 00:49:13.438 - [Audrey] Yes! 918 00:49:13.438 --> 00:49:15.207 - [Little Girl] Hug your mom more! 919 00:49:15.207 --> 00:49:16.382 - Oh! No, it's okay. 920 00:49:16.382 --> 00:49:18.050 - Get that thing off of us! 921 00:49:18.050 --> 00:49:19.209 - I'm gonna hug your mom 922 00:49:19.209 --> 00:49:21.217 'cause now I know my baby's safe. 923 00:49:21.217 --> 00:49:24.993 I spent all that time making sure he's perfect, 924 00:49:24.993 --> 00:49:26.076 he's perfect. 925 00:49:29.915 --> 00:49:31.389 - [Voiceover] Two days later, 926 00:49:31.389 --> 00:49:33.306 Mika Little goes south. 927 00:49:34.144 --> 00:49:36.624 Maggie's friends, Charles and Lynn, 928 00:49:36.624 --> 00:49:40.426 send Mika Little to New Orleans on a jet. 929 00:49:40.426 --> 00:49:43.774 Charles's parents have agreed to adopt her. 930 00:49:43.774 --> 00:49:47.278 Maggie sends along a letter of introduction. 931 00:49:47.278 --> 00:49:50.405 - [Maggie] Dear new parents of Mika Little pups, 932 00:49:50.405 --> 00:49:51.918 congratulations! 933 00:49:51.918 --> 00:49:54.290 Mika Little is a fine and spunky, 934 00:49:54.290 --> 00:49:56.647 charismatic, funny dog. 935 00:49:56.647 --> 00:49:59.881 Lynn understands her better than I do in some respects 936 00:49:59.881 --> 00:50:03.049 and I'm confident she'll be happy with y'all. 937 00:50:03.049 --> 00:50:05.086 On December 7th, 1988, 938 00:50:05.086 --> 00:50:06.744 there was an earthquake in Armenia 939 00:50:06.744 --> 00:50:09.380 while Gorbachev was in New York City 940 00:50:09.380 --> 00:50:12.917 and friends and I were at Rockefeller Plaza seeing him. 941 00:50:12.917 --> 00:50:16.264 The next afternoon, Maya gave birth to eight puppies, 942 00:50:16.264 --> 00:50:18.827 the fifth of which had to be hand delivered. 943 00:50:18.827 --> 00:50:20.892 She was the only light colored one 944 00:50:20.892 --> 00:50:24.281 and I named her after Mikhail Gorbachev. 945 00:50:24.281 --> 00:50:26.570 This little piece of history will help you see into 946 00:50:26.570 --> 00:50:28.517 Mika Little a little, 947 00:50:28.517 --> 00:50:32.099 and we hope you will keep us informed of her silliness, 948 00:50:32.099 --> 00:50:35.517 for whose first birthday we received a one month vacation 949 00:50:35.517 --> 00:50:38.201 in the shanty at Central Park. 950 00:50:38.201 --> 00:50:39.453 For her next birthday, 951 00:50:39.453 --> 00:50:42.817 she may even take the cake. Who knows? 952 00:50:42.817 --> 00:50:44.484 Yours truly, Maggie. 953 00:51:02.484 --> 00:51:04.168 - [Voiceover] A few days later, 954 00:51:04.168 --> 00:51:07.717 Maggie's reservations about having parted with two dogs 955 00:51:07.717 --> 00:51:09.134 began to surface. 956 00:51:10.078 --> 00:51:11.730 She mourns Mika Little's departure 957 00:51:11.730 --> 00:51:14.726 on the bank of the East River. 958 00:51:14.726 --> 00:51:16.226 Maggie seems edgy. 959 00:51:19.241 --> 00:51:21.240 Tension mounts when I finally tell Maggie 960 00:51:21.240 --> 00:51:24.231 that I've spoken with Mrs. Cogen. 961 00:51:24.231 --> 00:51:25.999 Although Maggie admits having wanted me 962 00:51:25.999 --> 00:51:29.035 to contact Mrs. Cogen at Christmas, 963 00:51:29.035 --> 00:51:31.554 she now is upset that I actually consulted the woman 964 00:51:31.554 --> 00:51:34.804 she calls Eris, the goddess of discord. 965 00:51:36.605 --> 00:51:38.938 - And what am I upset about? 966 00:51:41.012 --> 00:51:42.429 I'm upset because 967 00:51:47.583 --> 00:51:50.964 when I tell you the truth about, 968 00:51:50.964 --> 00:51:52.325 that I was born in Scotland 969 00:51:52.325 --> 00:51:55.400 and I'm the daughter of these two particular people 970 00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:59.567 and, uh, a cross of these three particular people, 971 00:52:00.561 --> 00:52:02.803 two fellows and a woman, 972 00:52:02.803 --> 00:52:04.389 and they had shipped me. 973 00:52:04.389 --> 00:52:06.904 One of them or some of them had shipped me from 974 00:52:06.904 --> 00:52:08.237 where I was born 975 00:52:09.816 --> 00:52:13.233 to where I was claimed to be the child of 976 00:52:14.438 --> 00:52:15.855 two other people. 977 00:52:16.860 --> 00:52:20.130 You doubt that this really happened. 978 00:52:20.130 --> 00:52:23.463 (fast paced drum music) 979 00:52:25.230 --> 00:52:26.549 - [Voiceover] I agree never to contact 980 00:52:26.549 --> 00:52:27.966 Mrs. Cogen again, 981 00:52:29.084 --> 00:52:31.871 yet Maggie gives me a lot of new information, 982 00:52:31.871 --> 00:52:34.311 including the name of a high school classmate 983 00:52:34.311 --> 00:52:36.728 from New Hyde Park, New York. 984 00:52:37.672 --> 00:52:41.339 Despite her anger, she wants me to continue. 985 00:52:48.924 --> 00:52:51.284 Maggie tells me that she was raised here, 986 00:52:51.284 --> 00:52:53.469 in the suburb of New York City, 987 00:52:53.469 --> 00:52:56.755 with two brothers and a sister. 988 00:52:56.755 --> 00:53:00.111 While Mr. Cogen worked in wholesale food distribution, 989 00:53:00.111 --> 00:53:03.194 Maggie went to the local high school. 990 00:53:04.941 --> 00:53:07.831 Joanne Burgbalm was a friend and classmate. 991 00:53:07.831 --> 00:53:09.990 - She did stand out as looking 992 00:53:09.990 --> 00:53:12.563 just a little bit different and yet very mainstream also, 993 00:53:12.563 --> 00:53:15.275 which is really what my sense of Maggie 994 00:53:15.275 --> 00:53:16.455 is in regard to everything. 995 00:53:16.455 --> 00:53:17.597 She was very much part of everything 996 00:53:17.597 --> 00:53:19.638 that everybody else was part of, 997 00:53:19.638 --> 00:53:22.252 and yet there was something that was just 998 00:53:22.252 --> 00:53:25.493 a little bit, I was going to use the word "off centered", 999 00:53:25.493 --> 00:53:27.519 but I really don't mean off centered. 1000 00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:29.317 Just a little bit different from the mainstream, 1001 00:53:29.317 --> 00:53:31.101 something that made us take notice of her. 1002 00:53:31.101 --> 00:53:33.435 I guess that that's a better way to put it. 1003 00:53:33.435 --> 00:53:37.378 She was outstanding in her own right, always. 1004 00:53:37.378 --> 00:53:38.929 And I think that's why I was surprised 1005 00:53:38.929 --> 00:53:42.405 when I went back and started looking in the yearbook 1006 00:53:42.405 --> 00:53:45.175 to find out that she was part of the kickline 1007 00:53:45.175 --> 00:53:47.912 and that she was wearing a kickline uniform frequently, 1008 00:53:47.912 --> 00:53:50.044 with all the other girls who were wearing a kickline uniform 1009 00:53:50.044 --> 00:53:52.117 because I guess I had forgotten 1010 00:53:52.117 --> 00:53:53.629 that part of Maggie. 1011 00:53:53.629 --> 00:53:56.333 I remember the middle of a club involvement, 1012 00:53:56.333 --> 00:53:58.109 middle of the service organizations, 1013 00:53:58.109 --> 00:54:00.650 and I'd really forgotten that she was 1014 00:54:00.650 --> 00:54:02.061 up over on the net, 1015 00:54:02.061 --> 00:54:02.941 somebody on the kickline, 1016 00:54:02.941 --> 00:54:04.810 somebody who was a real "rah rah" person 1017 00:54:04.810 --> 00:54:06.869 out there at the football games. 1018 00:54:06.869 --> 00:54:11.282 And I think that I respected Maggie's mind so much 1019 00:54:11.282 --> 00:54:14.019 that I probably didn't remember that part of her 1020 00:54:14.019 --> 00:54:16.945 that was such a typical high school girl 1021 00:54:16.945 --> 00:54:19.283 in the early 1960s. 1022 00:54:19.283 --> 00:54:21.783 (bongo music) 1023 00:54:23.830 --> 00:54:26.598 - [Voiceover] Combining the evidence from Joanne Burgbalm, 1024 00:54:26.598 --> 00:54:28.728 Mrs. Cogen, and Maggie, 1025 00:54:28.728 --> 00:54:32.619 I managed to unravel more of her crinology. 1026 00:54:32.619 --> 00:54:35.980 After graduating from high school in 1961, 1027 00:54:35.980 --> 00:54:38.595 Maggie attended half a dozen colleges 1028 00:54:38.595 --> 00:54:41.267 over a four year period. 1029 00:54:41.267 --> 00:54:43.062 - [Maggie] I had been told repeatedly 1030 00:54:43.062 --> 00:54:45.457 that I couldn't do anything, 1031 00:54:45.457 --> 00:54:49.661 so I thought "Well, I can't do anything but go to college" 1032 00:54:49.661 --> 00:54:51.936 so I just went to one college, 1033 00:54:51.936 --> 00:54:54.396 and then I went to another college. 1034 00:54:54.396 --> 00:54:57.969 And I kept going to colleges, having nervous breakdowns, 1035 00:54:57.969 --> 00:55:02.869 being anxious, being upset, trying to find myself, 1036 00:55:02.869 --> 00:55:03.702 but, uh, 1037 00:55:05.476 --> 00:55:07.729 Life magazine was saying that 1038 00:55:07.729 --> 00:55:09.726 the whole generation was doing the same thing 1039 00:55:09.726 --> 00:55:13.011 that I was doing so I figured I was in step 1040 00:55:13.011 --> 00:55:14.261 with the times. 1041 00:55:22.436 --> 00:55:23.991 - [Voiceover] In the mid 60s, 1042 00:55:23.991 --> 00:55:25.676 Maggie abandoned college 1043 00:55:25.676 --> 00:55:29.426 and found her rare vocation in New York City. 1044 00:55:39.615 --> 00:55:40.448 By 1968, 1045 00:55:41.328 --> 00:55:42.963 Maggie was driving sightseers through the 1046 00:55:42.963 --> 00:55:45.463 cultural profusion of the 60s. 1047 00:55:54.574 --> 00:55:59.308 For five years, Maggie prospered as a carriage driver. 1048 00:55:59.308 --> 00:56:01.878 - [Maggie] Then I started buying my own carriage. 1049 00:56:01.878 --> 00:56:03.894 Gee, it was a beautiful outfit. 1050 00:56:03.894 --> 00:56:04.974 It was a little shaky, 1051 00:56:04.974 --> 00:56:07.974 the shafts weren't the right shafts. 1052 00:56:09.339 --> 00:56:12.663 But it was mine 1053 00:56:12.663 --> 00:56:13.496 and it was 1054 00:56:15.271 --> 00:56:19.438 wonderful to have a horse who talked. (laughs) 1055 00:56:21.611 --> 00:56:23.313 Well, in 1969, 1056 00:56:23.313 --> 00:56:25.395 if you weren't fighting in a war 1057 00:56:25.395 --> 00:56:28.553 on the other side of the world, 1058 00:56:28.553 --> 00:56:31.386 you had this obligation to explore 1059 00:56:34.128 --> 00:56:35.378 the other world 1060 00:56:37.500 --> 00:56:38.500 way up high. 1061 00:56:42.132 --> 00:56:42.965 So after 1062 00:56:46.632 --> 00:56:48.715 LSD told me to relinquish 1063 00:56:49.709 --> 00:56:51.483 all material goods 1064 00:56:51.483 --> 00:56:53.983 to the common wheel somewhere, 1065 00:56:56.198 --> 00:56:59.895 I let it all slip through my fingers. 1066 00:56:59.895 --> 00:57:02.395 The important thing seem to be 1067 00:57:03.263 --> 00:57:06.439 to continue this marriage with Jupiter, 1068 00:57:06.439 --> 00:57:09.436 which was billions of years old 1069 00:57:09.436 --> 00:57:12.603 and I hadn't seen him in 700 years so. 1070 00:57:16.108 --> 00:57:19.335 So we caught on with the business 1071 00:57:19.335 --> 00:57:21.502 of continuing the dynasty. 1072 00:57:23.292 --> 00:57:26.292 (brassy jazz music) 1073 00:57:38.450 --> 00:57:39.924 - [Voiceover] Who is this Jupiter who 1074 00:57:39.924 --> 00:57:42.734 lifted Maggie from her Central Park carriage 1075 00:57:42.734 --> 00:57:46.000 and exiled her to the airways? 1076 00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:49.552 What man deserves this powerful name? 1077 00:57:49.552 --> 00:57:50.756 Worshiping him, 1078 00:57:50.756 --> 00:57:53.515 Maggie was stripped at some point of her children 1079 00:57:53.515 --> 00:57:55.098 and her livelihood. 1080 00:57:56.360 --> 00:57:57.780 15 years later, 1081 00:57:57.780 --> 00:58:00.020 she's still engaged in what she calls 1082 00:58:00.020 --> 00:58:02.937 a "romantic conversation" with him. 1083 00:58:04.648 --> 00:58:06.440 As I wander through the park, 1084 00:58:06.440 --> 00:58:09.107 I sense Jupiter's presence here. 1085 00:58:19.614 --> 00:58:22.616 Herculisa, the runt of Mika Little's litter, 1086 00:58:22.616 --> 00:58:24.589 proved to be deaf. 1087 00:58:24.589 --> 00:58:27.197 So her disappointed owner has returned her, 1088 00:58:27.197 --> 00:58:28.416 much to Maggie's delight. 1089 00:58:28.416 --> 00:58:33.085 - Course like that I just get (kisses). 1090 00:58:33.085 --> 00:58:34.673 (dog growls angrily) 1091 00:58:34.673 --> 00:58:37.173 Oh Boris, go eat your Tylenol. 1092 00:58:39.411 --> 00:58:40.653 (dog growls) 1093 00:58:40.653 --> 00:58:42.153 Get away from him. 1094 00:58:43.315 --> 00:58:44.148 Oh. 1095 00:58:53.051 --> 00:58:54.196 I got a spoon. 1096 00:58:54.196 --> 00:58:56.501 - [Voiceover] Watching Maggie dote on her dogs, 1097 00:58:56.501 --> 00:59:00.853 I am more and more curious about her actual children. 1098 00:59:00.853 --> 00:59:02.197 Back in December, 1099 00:59:02.197 --> 00:59:06.189 Mrs. Cogen told me that Maggie had been married twice. 1100 00:59:06.189 --> 00:59:08.801 Though Maggie claims to have five children, 1101 00:59:08.801 --> 00:59:11.181 Mrs. Cogen only knows of two, 1102 00:59:11.181 --> 00:59:12.764 Michael and Justin. 1103 00:59:14.425 --> 00:59:17.572 Maggie says that she met Michael's father, Richard, 1104 00:59:17.572 --> 00:59:18.815 when he rode in her carriage 1105 00:59:18.815 --> 00:59:20.648 in the spring of 1968. 1106 00:59:21.989 --> 00:59:23.406 He was a tourist. 1107 00:59:24.392 --> 00:59:25.935 They had a brief affair 1108 00:59:25.935 --> 00:59:27.685 and Michael was born. 1109 00:59:28.525 --> 00:59:32.634 Richard gave Maggie child support and disappeared. 1110 00:59:32.634 --> 00:59:35.256 Mrs. Cogen remembers him fondly. 1111 00:59:35.256 --> 00:59:37.006 He was a Harvard MBA. 1112 00:59:38.735 --> 00:59:41.821 Justin's paternity is more vague. 1113 00:59:41.821 --> 00:59:45.988 Maggie says he was conceived in the summer of 1970. 1114 00:59:47.490 --> 00:59:49.727 - Well, the summer of 70. 1115 00:59:49.727 --> 00:59:52.227 And the music started to sound 1116 00:59:54.151 --> 00:59:56.065 familiar because I used to hear it 1117 00:59:56.065 --> 00:59:58.687 coming out of Jupiter's head 1118 00:59:58.687 --> 01:00:01.845 before it ever got down to vinyl or anything. 1119 01:00:01.845 --> 01:00:05.561 So I was hearing all this Led Zeppelin stuff in my life 1120 01:00:05.561 --> 01:00:08.228 before it was actually recorded. 1121 01:00:09.113 --> 01:00:11.525 - [Voiceover] Who is Jupiter? 1122 01:00:11.525 --> 01:00:12.625 - Yeah, that's a good question. 1123 01:00:12.625 --> 01:00:16.375 He's very tall and he said his name was John. 1124 01:00:17.300 --> 01:00:20.973 Maybe he's a drummer? He's a musician. 1125 01:00:20.973 --> 01:00:23.806 And later on he was a disc jockey. 1126 01:00:24.752 --> 01:00:26.186 He still is a disk jockey, 1127 01:00:26.186 --> 01:00:29.103 he just can't figure out which one. 1128 01:00:30.814 --> 01:00:34.213 Because if they told me that John wasn't the father 1129 01:00:34.213 --> 01:00:35.463 of Justin Case, 1130 01:00:36.315 --> 01:00:38.398 I probably would've died. 1131 01:00:40.608 --> 01:00:42.951 Because I was so in love with John 1132 01:00:42.951 --> 01:00:45.515 and one of the Johns, or two of the Johns, 1133 01:00:45.515 --> 01:00:46.563 or three of the Johns, 1134 01:00:46.563 --> 01:00:48.555 or four of the Johns had said 1135 01:00:48.555 --> 01:00:51.159 "I don't love you, Maggie". 1136 01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:54.539 So I was in a heartbroken condition 1137 01:00:54.539 --> 01:00:56.872 through the first trimester. 1138 01:01:04.107 --> 01:01:05.247 - [Voiceover] At last, 1139 01:01:05.247 --> 01:01:09.169 Maggie's revealed Jupiter's Christian name. 1140 01:01:09.169 --> 01:01:10.790 This man, John, 1141 01:01:10.790 --> 01:01:14.372 seems to have abandoned Maggie before Justin's birth 1142 01:01:14.372 --> 01:01:16.789 with very harsh consequences. 1143 01:01:22.567 --> 01:01:24.321 - [Maggie] The first voices I heard 1144 01:01:24.321 --> 01:01:26.488 were in September of 1970, 1145 01:01:28.831 --> 01:01:31.962 when this fellow, John, 1146 01:01:31.962 --> 01:01:34.045 was becoming real scarce. 1147 01:01:35.283 --> 01:01:36.719 I had nothing to do! 1148 01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:40.636 My husband was off in the airwaves somewhere so 1149 01:01:41.582 --> 01:01:45.665 I didn't have him, so I had these games I'd play. 1150 01:01:46.685 --> 01:01:49.935 I had to do something, I was desperate. 1151 01:01:50.783 --> 01:01:53.784 And I first, first thing I ever, 1152 01:01:53.784 --> 01:01:56.153 well, that wasn't the first, 1153 01:01:56.153 --> 01:01:57.997 one of the first things I ever heard them say was 1154 01:01:57.997 --> 01:01:59.308 "Don't wash your hair" 1155 01:01:59.308 --> 01:02:03.211 'cause I used to wash my hair all the time and 1156 01:02:03.211 --> 01:02:05.729 I felt very comforted by the fact that 1157 01:02:05.729 --> 01:02:08.001 even though he wasn't there physically, 1158 01:02:08.001 --> 01:02:09.418 I could hear him. 1159 01:02:10.841 --> 01:02:13.449 And then there was that wonderful record, 1160 01:02:13.449 --> 01:02:15.866 Radar Love by Golden Earring, 1161 01:02:16.855 --> 01:02:21.022 'cause the voices I could hear were of Golden Earring. 1162 01:02:22.711 --> 01:02:26.878 And Radar Love was how we kept our marriage together. 1163 01:02:33.967 --> 01:02:36.202 - [Ednisval] Ven, vena. Up, that's right! 1164 01:02:36.202 --> 01:02:37.960 You see how much smoother it is? 1165 01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:38.802 - Mmm-hmm. 1166 01:02:38.802 --> 01:02:39.955 - [Ednisval] Yeah. Get up. 1167 01:02:39.955 --> 01:02:42.669 - [Voiceover] Not only is Jupiter proved to be real, 1168 01:02:42.669 --> 01:02:45.384 but I received a letter from Robert Ryan's daughter, 1169 01:02:45.384 --> 01:02:49.705 Lisa, confirming that they knew Maggie well. 1170 01:02:49.705 --> 01:02:52.069 Back in the classless society of Central Park 1171 01:02:52.069 --> 01:02:55.236 in the 1960's, Maggie befriended Lisa. 1172 01:02:56.369 --> 01:02:58.607 They influenced one another. 1173 01:02:58.607 --> 01:03:01.003 Lisa took up carriage driving, 1174 01:03:01.003 --> 01:03:05.168 Maggie became a frequent guest at the Dakota. 1175 01:03:05.168 --> 01:03:08.081 - Robert Ryan and I passed each other in the hall 1176 01:03:08.081 --> 01:03:11.737 and my bone marrow began to sizzle 1177 01:03:11.737 --> 01:03:15.814 in a way that I understood that he and I, 1178 01:03:15.814 --> 01:03:17.625 somewhere out there, 1179 01:03:17.625 --> 01:03:21.042 had once upon a time been the same thing. 1180 01:03:22.347 --> 01:03:25.940 So therefore, we're doing the same thing. 1181 01:03:25.940 --> 01:03:28.964 Even if he's taking the longest road 1182 01:03:28.964 --> 01:03:31.956 and I'm taking the crookedest road, 1183 01:03:31.956 --> 01:03:33.604 we're the same thing. 1184 01:03:33.604 --> 01:03:36.972 So it turns out he's Saturn and I'm his daughter, Juno. 1185 01:03:36.972 --> 01:03:38.758 So it's the same thing. 1186 01:03:38.758 --> 01:03:41.591 (soft drum music) 1187 01:03:47.488 --> 01:03:49.849 - [Voiceover] It is Lisa Ryan who completes for me 1188 01:03:49.849 --> 01:03:53.821 the picture of Maggie's celebrity as a carriage driver. 1189 01:03:53.821 --> 01:03:57.810 She leads me to a rare piece of video tape. 1190 01:03:57.810 --> 01:04:00.770 - Well I'm gonna try and establish the means of propulsion. 1191 01:04:00.770 --> 01:04:05.704 Is it propelled by an internal combustion gasoline engine? 1192 01:04:05.704 --> 01:04:08.133 - [Announcer] An internal combustion gasoline engine? 1193 01:04:08.133 --> 01:04:09.208 - [Man In Plaid] Right, good. - No. 1194 01:04:09.208 --> 01:04:10.205 - Absolutely not. 1195 01:04:10.205 --> 01:04:11.244 That's three down, we go to Mariner. 1196 01:04:11.244 --> 01:04:13.884 - Is there a live animal connected to it? 1197 01:04:13.884 --> 01:04:14.717 - [Maggie] Yes. 1198 01:04:14.717 --> 01:04:15.791 - [Blonde Lady] Yes, that's what I thought. 1199 01:04:15.791 --> 01:04:16.802 Is it a horse? 1200 01:04:16.802 --> 01:04:17.717 - [Maggie] Yes. 1201 01:04:17.717 --> 01:04:18.550 - Alright, 1202 01:04:18.550 --> 01:04:21.501 I'm gonna say is it one of the carriages in Central Park? 1203 01:04:21.501 --> 01:04:22.334 - [Announcer] Yes! 1204 01:04:22.334 --> 01:04:24.946 (audience claps) 1205 01:04:24.946 --> 01:04:25.779 - I'm sorry. 1206 01:04:25.779 --> 01:04:26.779 - Thank you. 1207 01:04:29.818 --> 01:04:31.612 - What do you charge? 1208 01:04:31.612 --> 01:04:34.776 What do you charge for one trip through Central Park? 1209 01:04:34.776 --> 01:04:37.208 - I charge seven dollars. 1210 01:04:37.208 --> 01:04:39.544 - [Announcer] And why would a lovely young lady 1211 01:04:39.544 --> 01:04:41.893 choose this particular type of profession? 1212 01:04:41.893 --> 01:04:44.226 What made you get into this? 1213 01:04:44.226 --> 01:04:48.178 - Well, I type 18 words a minute with three mistakes, 1214 01:04:48.178 --> 01:04:49.520 so that's. 1215 01:04:49.520 --> 01:04:52.074 - [Announcer] (laughs) That's out. 1216 01:04:52.074 --> 01:04:54.144 - I don't like to be indoors, 1217 01:04:54.144 --> 01:04:57.638 I love horses, and I'm interested in antiques. 1218 01:04:57.638 --> 01:04:59.246 Everything went together. And that's, 1219 01:04:59.246 --> 01:05:01.477 - So you have an antique buggy and a horse 1220 01:05:01.477 --> 01:05:04.034 and you're outside in Central Park 1221 01:05:04.034 --> 01:05:05.838 making seven dollars an hour. And now it's-- 1222 01:05:05.838 --> 01:05:06.986 - No, I'm not doing that! 1223 01:05:06.986 --> 01:05:08.967 It doesn't average out to seven an hour. 1224 01:05:08.967 --> 01:05:10.133 - But it's pretty good. 1225 01:05:10.133 --> 01:05:10.991 - Well alright. Make my mother feel good. 1226 01:05:10.991 --> 01:05:12.581 - Let's show them exactly what she looks like 1227 01:05:12.581 --> 01:05:13.958 when she's doing this in Central Park. 1228 01:05:13.958 --> 01:05:15.308 We have a picture here, 1229 01:05:15.308 --> 01:05:17.123 and lets one of our audience show you 1230 01:05:17.123 --> 01:05:19.871 exactly what she looks like. 1231 01:05:19.871 --> 01:05:20.704 There you are, 1232 01:05:20.704 --> 01:05:21.791 all decked out in your garb 1233 01:05:21.791 --> 01:05:23.963 and atop of your buggy. 1234 01:05:23.963 --> 01:05:26.963 (audience applauds) 1235 01:05:31.473 --> 01:05:32.306 And you've been doing this now 1236 01:05:32.306 --> 01:05:33.139 for about two years? 1237 01:05:33.139 --> 01:05:34.077 - Mmm-hmm! Two and a half. 1238 01:05:34.077 --> 01:05:35.180 - Two and a half years? - [Maggie] Mmm-hmm. 1239 01:05:35.180 --> 01:05:36.973 - And your future is in central park, right? 1240 01:05:36.973 --> 01:05:38.434 - Um, it could be. 1241 01:05:38.434 --> 01:05:39.267 - Could be. Alright. 1242 01:05:39.267 --> 01:05:40.779 Maggie thank you so much for being with us 1243 01:05:40.779 --> 01:05:41.832 on "What's My Line". 1244 01:05:41.832 --> 01:05:44.832 (audience applauds) 1245 01:05:47.223 --> 01:05:48.648 - [Voiceover] I'm struck by the contrast 1246 01:05:48.648 --> 01:05:52.815 between Maggie's poise in her 1968 television appearance 1247 01:05:53.714 --> 01:05:57.757 and her predicament only a few years later. 1248 01:05:57.757 --> 01:06:00.168 By the spring of 1972, 1249 01:06:00.168 --> 01:06:03.038 she was an unemployed single mother of two 1250 01:06:03.038 --> 01:06:05.111 living in Harlem. 1251 01:06:05.111 --> 01:06:07.266 Robert, Ryan, and her lover, John, 1252 01:06:07.266 --> 01:06:09.340 were now absent. 1253 01:06:09.340 --> 01:06:12.732 Saturn and Jupiter was larger than ever. 1254 01:06:12.732 --> 01:06:15.292 Comforted only by Radar Love, 1255 01:06:15.292 --> 01:06:19.451 she found raising her children an increasingly awesome task, 1256 01:06:19.451 --> 01:06:21.034 especially Michael. 1257 01:06:22.260 --> 01:06:24.093 - He was the child who 1258 01:06:26.549 --> 01:06:29.632 pulled the heavy psychic stuff on me. 1259 01:06:31.612 --> 01:06:32.779 So when he was 1260 01:06:35.145 --> 01:06:36.395 two and a half, 1261 01:06:37.813 --> 01:06:39.829 he was a little two and a half year old baby 1262 01:06:39.829 --> 01:06:40.829 behind me on 1263 01:06:41.848 --> 01:06:42.931 105th Street. 1264 01:06:44.085 --> 01:06:45.294 And I looked around, 1265 01:06:45.294 --> 01:06:47.500 but look at this little cute two year old. 1266 01:06:47.500 --> 01:06:49.139 And all of a sudden, 1267 01:06:49.139 --> 01:06:52.207 he was Saint Michael, the archangel, 1268 01:06:52.207 --> 01:06:55.374 in full regalia. 1269 01:06:56.641 --> 01:07:00.468 He had a sword, he had wings, he had a crown, 1270 01:07:00.468 --> 01:07:04.635 he had a long golden, white robe with gold edging, 1271 01:07:05.811 --> 01:07:08.069 epilepse. (giggles) 1272 01:07:08.069 --> 01:07:09.819 What else did he have? 1273 01:07:09.819 --> 01:07:10.652 Well, he, 1274 01:07:13.129 --> 01:07:15.472 was over six feet tall, 1275 01:07:15.472 --> 01:07:18.992 maybe he was about six feet tall. 1276 01:07:18.992 --> 01:07:19.825 And, uh, 1277 01:07:24.445 --> 01:07:28.261 his eyes were so cold and so greenish gray 1278 01:07:28.261 --> 01:07:29.934 just looking at me saying 1279 01:07:29.934 --> 01:07:32.351 "When I leave, don't follow". 1280 01:07:33.879 --> 01:07:35.772 And then it was over. 1281 01:07:35.772 --> 01:07:37.689 A month later, he left. 1282 01:07:39.610 --> 01:07:42.308 I had been raped, I had been robbed, 1283 01:07:42.308 --> 01:07:44.089 I had been the whole, you know, 1284 01:07:44.089 --> 01:07:46.073 holy macaroni thing. 1285 01:07:46.073 --> 01:07:46.906 And, uh, 1286 01:07:48.373 --> 01:07:50.093 the Cogens came to take him to 1287 01:07:50.093 --> 01:07:53.266 New Hyde Park with Justin Case. 1288 01:07:53.266 --> 01:07:56.002 And he just casually waved "Goodbye" 1289 01:07:56.002 --> 01:07:58.094 and right out the door. 1290 01:07:58.094 --> 01:07:58.927 And, uh, 1291 01:08:00.556 --> 01:08:03.639 that was the end of his being my son. 1292 01:08:09.919 --> 01:08:12.501 I wasn't able to hold the seam together 1293 01:08:12.501 --> 01:08:15.789 and it was obvious to me I wasn't supposed to. 1294 01:08:15.789 --> 01:08:17.886 And I went bouncing around the city 1295 01:08:17.886 --> 01:08:20.200 trying to find another place to live, 1296 01:08:20.200 --> 01:08:21.700 but the cards were 1297 01:08:23.181 --> 01:08:24.554 stacked in such a way 1298 01:08:24.554 --> 01:08:28.258 that Elizabeth from Houston came up to see me 1299 01:08:28.258 --> 01:08:32.175 and said "Hey girl! Let's hitch back to Texas!" 1300 01:08:33.663 --> 01:08:37.246 And so I went for a two week jaunt to Texas 1301 01:08:38.213 --> 01:08:41.963 and didn't come back for three or four years. 1302 01:08:47.252 --> 01:08:48.085 - [Voiceover] What drove Maggie 1303 01:08:48.085 --> 01:08:49.948 to make the fateful decision 1304 01:08:49.948 --> 01:08:52.770 to leave her very own children with the Cogens 1305 01:08:52.770 --> 01:08:55.702 and stay away for so long? 1306 01:08:55.702 --> 01:08:57.627 She cites many reasons, 1307 01:08:57.627 --> 01:09:00.146 among them, Jupiter's absence, 1308 01:09:00.146 --> 01:09:03.958 Saint Michael's commands, tension with the Cogens, 1309 01:09:03.958 --> 01:09:06.284 and a broken heart. 1310 01:09:06.284 --> 01:09:09.074 But whatever forces were working on Maggie, 1311 01:09:09.074 --> 01:09:11.736 one thing remains certain. 1312 01:09:11.736 --> 01:09:16.478 By staying in Texas, she was losing her children. 1313 01:09:16.478 --> 01:09:19.002 The Cogens returned Michael to his father 1314 01:09:19.002 --> 01:09:22.245 and put Justin up for adoption. 1315 01:09:22.245 --> 01:09:26.412 When Maggie returned to New York on July 7th, 1975, 1316 01:09:27.352 --> 01:09:30.340 both her children were gone. 1317 01:09:30.340 --> 01:09:31.212 Twelve days later, 1318 01:09:31.212 --> 01:09:33.530 she was institutionalized at Hillside Hospital 1319 01:09:33.530 --> 01:09:35.610 on Long Island. 1320 01:09:35.610 --> 01:09:38.555 She remained there for four months. 1321 01:09:38.555 --> 01:09:41.388 Maggie was on Jupiter's frequency. 1322 01:09:42.584 --> 01:09:45.084 (soft static) 1323 01:10:02.081 --> 01:10:04.998 (soft piano music) 1324 01:10:20.327 --> 01:10:22.244 I know that many things happen to Maggie 1325 01:10:22.244 --> 01:10:25.863 after her discharge from Hillside Hospital. 1326 01:10:25.863 --> 01:10:28.169 She was a roommate of Lisa Ryan's 1327 01:10:28.169 --> 01:10:32.264 and returned briefly to carriage driving. 1328 01:10:32.264 --> 01:10:35.397 She left New York and then lived with the Cogens 1329 01:10:35.397 --> 01:10:36.647 for four years. 1330 01:10:39.429 --> 01:10:43.596 But all these arrangements were fragile and doomed. 1331 01:10:46.847 --> 01:10:50.406 When Maggie returned to Texas to find her children gone, 1332 01:10:50.406 --> 01:10:52.914 she began her descent to that region 1333 01:10:52.914 --> 01:10:55.414 where I first encountered her. 1334 01:10:56.624 --> 01:11:00.478 - She's the daughter of a tricky one. 1335 01:11:00.478 --> 01:11:04.468 We're in the shadow of the living room. 1336 01:11:04.468 --> 01:11:05.679 - [Voiceover] That region in the shadow of 1337 01:11:05.679 --> 01:11:07.867 Robery Ryans's Dakota, 1338 01:11:07.867 --> 01:11:10.542 where Maggie could keep in contact with Jupiter, 1339 01:11:10.542 --> 01:11:14.042 Saturn, Hemera, Saint Michael, and Justin. 1340 01:11:15.881 --> 01:11:18.455 Maggie had taken all the necessary steps 1341 01:11:18.455 --> 01:11:21.372 to reassemble her family in Erebus. 1342 01:11:35.770 --> 01:11:36.680 With Maggie, 1343 01:11:36.680 --> 01:11:38.978 I'd entered a secret world that was as intricate 1344 01:11:38.978 --> 01:11:42.040 as anything I'd ever encountered. 1345 01:11:42.040 --> 01:11:44.502 But why did she create such a complicated language 1346 01:11:44.502 --> 01:11:46.085 to express herself? 1347 01:11:47.601 --> 01:11:50.064 It occurs to me that Maggie's mythology 1348 01:11:50.064 --> 01:11:51.814 is her self portrait. 1349 01:11:52.706 --> 01:11:53.921 On the canvas, 1350 01:11:53.921 --> 01:11:56.118 the figures of Jupiter, Hera, 1351 01:11:56.118 --> 01:11:59.440 and Saturn looms larger than life. 1352 01:11:59.440 --> 01:12:00.632 From a distance, 1353 01:12:00.632 --> 01:12:04.799 Maggie can see herself framed in this timeless drama. 1354 01:12:05.954 --> 01:12:08.609 I wonder if the distance also allows Maggie 1355 01:12:08.609 --> 01:12:10.968 to survive the pain and drama 1356 01:12:10.968 --> 01:12:12.484 of losing her children. 1357 01:12:12.484 --> 01:12:15.901 (psychedelic rock music) 1358 01:12:32.746 --> 01:12:34.708 Events in Maggie's life keep hinting 1359 01:12:34.708 --> 01:12:37.552 that it needs cinematic solution, 1360 01:12:37.552 --> 01:12:39.880 but don't count on it. 1361 01:12:39.880 --> 01:12:42.539 Maggie enrolls in a mental health clinic, 1362 01:12:42.539 --> 01:12:45.701 but drops out after several weeks. 1363 01:12:45.701 --> 01:12:47.867 She says she wants to get a job, 1364 01:12:47.867 --> 01:12:51.755 but she can't unleash herself from all her dogs. 1365 01:12:51.755 --> 01:12:52.887 A year ago, 1366 01:12:52.887 --> 01:12:54.926 the adoption of Mika Little's puppies 1367 01:12:54.926 --> 01:12:57.557 filled me with optimism. 1368 01:12:57.557 --> 01:13:00.223 But Maggie has collected more strays, 1369 01:13:00.223 --> 01:13:02.130 one of them has a litter. 1370 01:13:02.130 --> 01:13:03.630 The cycle repeats. 1371 01:13:13.610 --> 01:13:15.524 I'm busy too. 1372 01:13:15.524 --> 01:13:16.624 I don't know what to make of it, 1373 01:13:16.624 --> 01:13:20.288 but Maggie predicted that my daughter, Ramona, 1374 01:13:20.288 --> 01:13:23.754 would be born on the same day as her son, Michael, 1375 01:13:23.754 --> 01:13:25.004 September 13th. 1376 01:13:26.254 --> 01:13:28.570 She was even more specific. 1377 01:13:28.570 --> 01:13:29.987 She said at 4:30. 1378 01:13:32.074 --> 01:13:34.657 Astoundingly, Maggie was right. 1379 01:13:36.566 --> 01:13:38.597 Had I taken her more seriously, 1380 01:13:38.597 --> 01:13:40.761 I would not have had to deliver my daughter 1381 01:13:40.761 --> 01:13:44.049 in the back seat of a taxi cab. 1382 01:13:44.049 --> 01:13:46.466 (baby cries) 1383 01:13:50.603 --> 01:13:54.041 Maggie tell me a little more about Jupiter. 1384 01:13:54.041 --> 01:13:57.381 He also drove a carriage in Central Park. 1385 01:13:57.381 --> 01:13:59.378 He stood over six feet tall 1386 01:13:59.378 --> 01:14:03.128 and weighed 210 pounds in the summer of 1970. 1387 01:14:04.395 --> 01:14:07.035 I considered trying to find Maggie's Jupiter 1388 01:14:07.035 --> 01:14:08.868 and Maggie's children, 1389 01:14:09.929 --> 01:14:11.851 but they've been living separately from her 1390 01:14:11.851 --> 01:14:14.451 for more than 20 years. 1391 01:14:14.451 --> 01:14:16.124 What do they know about her, 1392 01:14:16.124 --> 01:14:18.879 and how would they react to meeting her? 1393 01:14:18.879 --> 01:14:22.523 How would Maggie react to meeting them? 1394 01:14:22.523 --> 01:14:25.622 Maybe fate can orchestrate a family reunion, 1395 01:14:25.622 --> 01:14:26.622 but I can't. 1396 01:14:27.509 --> 01:14:29.676 I decide to go no further. 1397 01:14:31.989 --> 01:14:34.639 - [Maggie] I met some kids in Long Island City. 1398 01:14:34.639 --> 01:14:36.793 Shamala's in kindergarten from eight something 1399 01:14:36.793 --> 01:14:38.722 to nearly three p.m. 1400 01:14:38.722 --> 01:14:39.794 He loves it 1401 01:14:39.794 --> 01:14:41.826 and his favorite thing to do is draw and play 1402 01:14:41.826 --> 01:14:44.014 with words and numbers. 1403 01:14:44.014 --> 01:14:46.258 Last night I gazed at him sitting beside me 1404 01:14:46.258 --> 01:14:49.131 and became aware of a brimming intelligence. 1405 01:14:49.131 --> 01:14:51.694 I could nearly hear the sound of his brain 1406 01:14:51.694 --> 01:14:55.592 and his brother, Mahlique, is so indescribably darling. 1407 01:14:55.592 --> 01:14:58.690 Maybe he can save the world with his charm 1408 01:14:58.690 --> 01:15:01.402 and Jamal can devise the scheme. 1409 01:15:01.402 --> 01:15:02.534 They're all coming with us 1410 01:15:02.534 --> 01:15:04.501 to a big horse farm. 1411 01:15:04.501 --> 01:15:07.015 Let's keep it practical so we can afford to give 1412 01:15:07.015 --> 01:15:08.432 every kid a pony. 1413 01:15:13.622 --> 01:15:15.343 - [Voiceover] Dear Maggie, 1414 01:15:15.343 --> 01:15:18.000 it's two years since we met. 1415 01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:20.971 When I met you, you had four dogs. 1416 01:15:20.971 --> 01:15:23.121 Now you have eight. 1417 01:15:23.121 --> 01:15:26.336 When I met you, you lived outdoors. 1418 01:15:26.336 --> 01:15:28.875 Now you have an address. 1419 01:15:28.875 --> 01:15:30.283 In Central Park, 1420 01:15:30.283 --> 01:15:32.721 you used to say that Jupiter would someday arrive 1421 01:15:32.721 --> 01:15:34.917 on a white horse. 1422 01:15:34.917 --> 01:15:38.037 Now you're not sure he'll ever come. 1423 01:15:38.037 --> 01:15:42.845 You once told me that Robert Ryan was a hundred feet tall. 1424 01:15:42.845 --> 01:15:46.061 More recently, you saw him on 80th Street. 1425 01:15:46.061 --> 01:15:47.978 And he was human sized. 1426 01:15:48.825 --> 01:15:52.953 Like the rest of us, you examine your assumptions. 1427 01:15:52.953 --> 01:15:56.333 You part with some of them, modify some, 1428 01:15:56.333 --> 01:15:58.000 and cling to others. 1429 01:15:58.904 --> 01:16:03.715 When I met you, you dreamed of living on a horse farm. 1430 01:16:03.715 --> 01:16:04.798 You still do. 1431 01:16:06.831 --> 01:16:10.331 (happy psychedelic music)